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I wasn't trying to say my lumber mill would be affected by a land tax, though presumably they would if a land tax was imposed here and a different business coul
by _heimdall 2y ago
I wasn't trying to say my lumber mill would be affected by a land tax, though presumably they would if a land tax was imposed here and a different business could theoretically extract more value from that land.
I raised a local mill as an example of how a less dense area can also lead to higher efficiency and lower resource use.
I was responding to the idea that we need a land value tax to push us towards higher density living because that's the most efficient. Its only efficient if we have centralized infrastructure that will always have to be shipped across the country or around the globe to get basic goods to people. I used my local mill as an example of how lower density can lead to resource efficiency that will simply never be beat no matter how efficient a centralized industry and shipping is.
Does it scale? Well I have no idea. Do people want the life in a less dense area? Again, no idea and I think most people living in a dense area don't really know what that life would look like to answer that question. I have plenty of uncertainties for either approach, what I don't want is for a central planner to push one path on us when its not clear the right way to go
- lotsofpulp 2y ago>what I don't want is for a central planner to push one path on us when its not clear the right way to go It is not possible to not have this. Land plots and road grids and design have to be designed for dense living, or less dense living, or rural living. You can’t mix and match. What we have now is the worst of all worlds, where a little, tiny bit is dense, and then there is an unsustainable medium density where people want to have their cake and eat it too (but physics does not allow for it). And that is where 95% of the population of the world is.
- _heimdall 2y ago> It is not possible to not have this. That's absolutely false, humanity existed before central planners drew property lines and build state-run roads. It might be reasonable to say that we can't have what we have today without central planning, but that's a very different discussion. You don't even have to go back that far, most roads were created by people just trying to get from point A to point B, there was no central planner.