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Seems like the fact of a large India-Egypt trade link via the red sea was known atleast a year back, and specifically this evidence from Berenike. This [0] link

Seems like the fact of a large India-Egypt trade link via the red sea was known atleast a year back, and specifically this evidence from Berenike. This [0] link describes the author William Dalrymple talking about it and also about his book [1] which is already out, which presumably covers this in more detail. A lot of Indian scholars are (re)discovering Indic history and we can expect much more of ancient India specific history to come out, which was unknown or has been forgotten over the ages, given the ancient nature of the Indian civilization. [0] https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/economy/story/indias-ancient-trade-route-more-important-than-silk-road-ever-was-william-dalrymple-hails-india-middle-east-europe-economic-corridor-398382-2023-09-14 https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/economy/story/indias-anc... [1] https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Road-Ancient-India-Transformed-ebook/dp/B0CWCS47P9 https://www.amazon.com/Golden-Road-Ancient-India-Transformed...

reidacdc 2y ago
Slightly OT, but if you are interested in this sort of thing, William Dalrymple and Anita Anand co-host the Empire podcast, which has many episodes and guests and recommended reading covering lots of ancient history. I'm not affiliated with it, I'm just a fan. https://www.goalhangerpodcasts.com/empire https://www.goalhangerpodcasts.com/empire
trompetenaccoun 2y ago
Another month, another article falsely claiming that these trade routes haven't been known for years. It's also not limited to India-Egypt. The Greeks traded with Ancient Ethiopia. As did the Romans, who also traded with India and even as far as China. That sea route through the Arabian Gulf has been well established for millennia.
zozbot234 2y ago
> A lot of Indian scholars are (re)discovering Indic history and we can expect much more of ancient India specific history to come out, which was unknown or has been forgotten over the ages, given the ancient nature of the Indian civilization. This, there are also very real links connecting famous civilizations of the Ancient Near East such as the Sumerians with the Dravidians of South India.
- lacy_tinpot 2y ago
  "Dravidian of South India" Isn't this the same thing as saying "Chai-Tea"? As "Dravidian" already means "Southern". Dravida = South in Sanskrit.
  - daseiner1 2y ago
    Yes, but it’s context for folks unfamiliar with Dravidians. And yes, said folks do have devices to quickly look up these things as well :)
  - krisoft 2y ago
    I don’t know about the Dravidians. But in English (UK/US) “chai tea” does not just mean any tea. It is commonly used to refer to to black tea spiced with specific mix of spices. It is true that “chai” means tea in many languages, but the meaning in English is more specific. (At least in the usage i have encountered.)
  - selimthegrim 2y ago
    Brahuis are not in S India
- FlyingSnake 2y ago
  Isn't Dravidian a language family (like Sino-Tibetan/Uralic) and not an ethnicity? AFAIK no South Indian empire like Rasthrakuta or Satavahan called themselves Dravidian.
  - trueismywork 2y ago
    ASI vs ANI
    - FlyingSnake 2y ago
      It’s not that straightforward because every Indian is a healthy mix of ANI+ASI+. In fact there’s no ASI ancient DNA sample available annd it’s a proposed phenotype. ANI/ASI also goes thousands of years before these empires arose so again back to the original claim that none of these empires called them Dravidian.

reidacdc 2y ago

Slightly OT, but if you are interested in this sort of thing, William Dalrymple and Anita Anand co-host the Empire podcast, which has many episodes and guests and recommended reading covering lots of ancient history. I'm not affiliated with it, I'm just a fan. https://www.goalhangerpodcasts.com/empire https://www.goalhangerpodcasts.com/empire

trompetenaccoun 2y ago

Another month, another article falsely claiming that these trade routes haven't been known for years. It's also not limited to India-Egypt. The Greeks traded with Ancient Ethiopia. As did the Romans, who also traded with India and even as far as China. That sea route through the Arabian Gulf has been well established for millennia.

zozbot234 2y ago

> A lot of Indian scholars are (re)discovering Indic history and we can expect much more of ancient India specific history to come out, which was unknown or has been forgotten over the ages, given the ancient nature of the Indian civilization. This, there are also very real links connecting famous civilizations of the Ancient Near East such as the Sumerians with the Dravidians of South India.

lacy_tinpot 2y ago
"Dravidian of South India" Isn't this the same thing as saying "Chai-Tea"? As "Dravidian" already means "Southern". Dravida = South in Sanskrit.
- daseiner1 2y ago
  Yes, but it’s context for folks unfamiliar with Dravidians. And yes, said folks do have devices to quickly look up these things as well :)
- krisoft 2y ago
  I don’t know about the Dravidians. But in English (UK/US) “chai tea” does not just mean any tea. It is commonly used to refer to to black tea spiced with specific mix of spices. It is true that “chai” means tea in many languages, but the meaning in English is more specific. (At least in the usage i have encountered.)
- selimthegrim 2y ago
  Brahuis are not in S India
FlyingSnake 2y ago
Isn't Dravidian a language family (like Sino-Tibetan/Uralic) and not an ethnicity? AFAIK no South Indian empire like Rasthrakuta or Satavahan called themselves Dravidian.
- trueismywork 2y ago
  ASI vs ANI
  - FlyingSnake 2y ago
    It’s not that straightforward because every Indian is a healthy mix of ANI+ASI+. In fact there’s no ASI ancient DNA sample available annd it’s a proposed phenotype. ANI/ASI also goes thousands of years before these empires arose so again back to the original claim that none of these empires called them Dravidian.