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Introducing the Theia IDE

22 points by skilled 2y ago

skilled 2y ago
Related: Theia: Cloud and Desktop IDE - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22792258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22792258 - April 2020 (183 comments)
- ohmyiv 2y ago
  Also related: Open Source 'Eclipse Theia IDE' Exits Beta to Challenge Visual Studio Code https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40825146 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40825146 One day ago, 160 comments.
  - skilled 2y ago
    Ahh! Thanks. I didn't see it because its not the official source, I only checked those two.
  - freedomben 2y ago
    Nice thanks, I kept thinking this is much bigger news than the reception it is getting. Good to know at least it isn't the first round.
benfortuna 2y ago
"This openness allows users to avoid a vendor-lock in for their development tooling, which is tremendously important.." I would question if you really do have vendor lock-in with an IDE, as usually the hardest thing about switching IDEs is learning the new keystrokes.
- viraptor 2y ago
  Between the vs-only extensions, vs-only Live share, and vs-only adapters to AIs, we're actually in the age of pretty strong vendor lock in, if you're invested in some features. Add some less common task management integration or review system, and the vendor lock in may be close to company-wide.
  - freedomben 2y ago
    Exactly. Being a vim or emacs user these days is quite the upstream swim. Everything is made for VS code, and it's actually affecting productivity. In the past it was more of a personal preference, but that is becoming less true. That said, they'll have to take vim from my cold dead fingers if they want me to stop :-)
- constantcrying 2y ago
  Have you ever done embedded development? Usually you get shipped a more or less broken piece of IDE, which is the only supported way (meaning the only way you are allowed to use) to develop for the embedded hardware. I think most people are missing who this is for and what problem it is trying to solve.
  - cassianoleal 2y ago
    > I think most people are missing who this is for and what problem it is trying to solve. I certainly am. Care to enlighten me?
    - constantcrying 2y ago
      As I wrote in my post, if you are working in embedded you will get an IDE from the chip manufacturer, which is the only real way to develop software for that chip. Generally those IDEs are not particularly good, as they are some hacked together toolkits based on some more or less flexible existing IDE. What Theia wants to accomplish is allowing chip manufacturers to build an IDE based on a flexible platform, with good extension support. More or less Theia isn't for you and it doesn't really try to compete with VSCode.
      - cassianoleal 2y ago
        Thank you, that’s very helpful!
    - daelon 2y ago
      He literally just said it.
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22 points by skilled 2y ago

Related: Theia: Cloud and Desktop IDE - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22792258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22792258 - April 2020 (183 comments)

ohmyiv 2y ago
Also related: Open Source 'Eclipse Theia IDE' Exits Beta to Challenge Visual Studio Code https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40825146 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40825146 One day ago, 160 comments.
- skilled 2y ago
  Ahh! Thanks. I didn't see it because its not the official source, I only checked those two.
- freedomben 2y ago
  Nice thanks, I kept thinking this is much bigger news than the reception it is getting. Good to know at least it isn't the first round.

benfortuna 2y ago

"This openness allows users to avoid a vendor-lock in for their development tooling, which is tremendously important.." I would question if you really do have vendor lock-in with an IDE, as usually the hardest thing about switching IDEs is learning the new keystrokes.

viraptor 2y ago
Between the vs-only extensions, vs-only Live share, and vs-only adapters to AIs, we're actually in the age of pretty strong vendor lock in, if you're invested in some features. Add some less common task management integration or review system, and the vendor lock in may be close to company-wide.
- freedomben 2y ago
  Exactly. Being a vim or emacs user these days is quite the upstream swim. Everything is made for VS code, and it's actually affecting productivity. In the past it was more of a personal preference, but that is becoming less true. That said, they'll have to take vim from my cold dead fingers if they want me to stop :-)
constantcrying 2y ago
Have you ever done embedded development? Usually you get shipped a more or less broken piece of IDE, which is the only supported way (meaning the only way you are allowed to use) to develop for the embedded hardware. I think most people are missing who this is for and what problem it is trying to solve.
- cassianoleal 2y ago
  > I think most people are missing who this is for and what problem it is trying to solve. I certainly am. Care to enlighten me?
  - constantcrying 2y ago
    As I wrote in my post, if you are working in embedded you will get an IDE from the chip manufacturer, which is the only real way to develop software for that chip. Generally those IDEs are not particularly good, as they are some hacked together toolkits based on some more or less flexible existing IDE. What Theia wants to accomplish is allowing chip manufacturers to build an IDE based on a flexible platform, with good extension support. More or less Theia isn't for you and it doesn't really try to compete with VSCode.
    - cassianoleal 2y ago
      Thank you, that’s very helpful!
  - daelon 2y ago
    He literally just said it.

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