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SwiftKey is clever in that it corrects depending on where you press in the key: If I type "Akk" it corrects it to "All" only if I pressed the "k" on its right

by nh2 2y ago

SwiftKey is clever in that it corrects depending on where you press in the key: If I type "Akk" it corrects it to "All" only if I pressed the "k" on its right side (near the "L" key); if I pressed it further left, it keeps "Akk". That works really well. Can FUTO do that too?

2StepsOutOfLine 2y ago
Tangentially, I think I may have developed some bad habits and muscle memory from relying on features like this when typing on android. So much so that when typing using FUTO's keyboard I ended up just getting frustrated at all the misspelling and went back to native.
- nh2 2y ago
  Not convinced it's "bad habits"; it just seems FUTO can improve a bit here. For example, today I typed "I'm not sure bit"; SwiftKey reliably corrects that to "I'm not sure but" (I believe even without any local learning) and FUTO doesn't. "I'm not sure bit" is just a very unlikely sentence, and I believe any Markov chain model should easily correct that.
  - nh2 2y ago
    I filed a couple such common cases here: https://github.com/futo-org/android-keyboard/issues/102#issuecomment-2198757251 https://github.com/futo-org/android-keyboard/issues/102#issu...
torginus 2y ago
I really miss physical keyboards. This issue only occurs because we're poor at controlly which part of our big sausage fingers actually make contact with the screen. The world used to be full of sliding phones with dedicated keyboards, but for some reason every manufacturer is content making the same glass rectangle. It's like we created a problem and are trying to solve that problem with technology, instead of not creating the problem in the first place.
- SkyPuncher 2y ago
  I bought a unihertz titan a few years back. Thought it’d be fun to have physical keys. Turns out, I type way faster on a virtual keyboard with a decent autocorrect. I don’t like doing it but I’ve gotten good enough over the past decade that physical keys are worse for me in just about every possible way.
- wolrah 2y ago
  > The wourld used to be full of sliding phones with dedicated keyboards, but for some reason every manufacturer is content making the same glass rectangle. "[S]ome reason" is actually a lot of reasons, all of which are pretty easy to understand. In no particular order: - Physical keyboards of any kind, stowable or not, add ~100 new mechanical points of failure which make the device harder to "life-proof" and more vulnerable to damage from debris, liquid, or physical impact. - Sliding, folding, etc. mechanisms add even more points of failure. - Keyboards and their stowing mechanisms if applicable take up space which could otherwise be used for screen or battery, or just removed to make the device slimmer which is a constant. - A keyboard attached to a "widescreen" phone is going to be on the wrong side some of the time. A Blackberry-style fixed orientation works better but people don't want that. For most users the worse typing experience just isn't enough of a problem to be worth the downsides. At least the Android world had plenty of options with keyboards in the beginning, but they just didn't sell as well as the all-glass bricks. If you really type a lot on your phone you could just grab a Bluetooth portable keyboard and velcro it to the back of the phone. I think someone made a case with a BT keyboard built in for iPhones at one point but I've never seen one in the wild. I personally used to have one of those tri-fold "pocket keyboard" units that physically plugged in to the dock port on my Palmpilot, now that Apple's finally on the USB-C train it'd be possible to make one of those universal to all modern phones. Maybe that idea needs a comeback. I wonder if the modern "low profile" mechanical keyswitches would be workable in something like that.

by nh2 2y ago

2StepsOutOfLine 2y ago

Tangentially, I think I may have developed some bad habits and muscle memory from relying on features like this when typing on android. So much so that when typing using FUTO's keyboard I ended up just getting frustrated at all the misspelling and went back to native.

nh2 2y ago
Not convinced it's "bad habits"; it just seems FUTO can improve a bit here. For example, today I typed "I'm not sure bit"; SwiftKey reliably corrects that to "I'm not sure but" (I believe even without any local learning) and FUTO doesn't. "I'm not sure bit" is just a very unlikely sentence, and I believe any Markov chain model should easily correct that.
- nh2 2y ago
  I filed a couple such common cases here: https://github.com/futo-org/android-keyboard/issues/102#issuecomment-2198757251 https://github.com/futo-org/android-keyboard/issues/102#issu...

torginus 2y ago

I really miss physical keyboards. This issue only occurs because we're poor at controlly which part of our big sausage fingers actually make contact with the screen. The world used to be full of sliding phones with dedicated keyboards, but for some reason every manufacturer is content making the same glass rectangle. It's like we created a problem and are trying to solve that problem with technology, instead of not creating the problem in the first place.

SkyPuncher 2y ago
I bought a unihertz titan a few years back. Thought it’d be fun to have physical keys. Turns out, I type way faster on a virtual keyboard with a decent autocorrect. I don’t like doing it but I’ve gotten good enough over the past decade that physical keys are worse for me in just about every possible way.
wolrah 2y ago
> The wourld used to be full of sliding phones with dedicated keyboards, but for some reason every manufacturer is content making the same glass rectangle. "[S]ome reason" is actually a lot of reasons, all of which are pretty easy to understand. In no particular order: - Physical keyboards of any kind, stowable or not, add ~100 new mechanical points of failure which make the device harder to "life-proof" and more vulnerable to damage from debris, liquid, or physical impact. - Sliding, folding, etc. mechanisms add even more points of failure. - Keyboards and their stowing mechanisms if applicable take up space which could otherwise be used for screen or battery, or just removed to make the device slimmer which is a constant. - A keyboard attached to a "widescreen" phone is going to be on the wrong side some of the time. A Blackberry-style fixed orientation works better but people don't want that. For most users the worse typing experience just isn't enough of a problem to be worth the downsides. At least the Android world had plenty of options with keyboards in the beginning, but they just didn't sell as well as the all-glass bricks. If you really type a lot on your phone you could just grab a Bluetooth portable keyboard and velcro it to the back of the phone. I think someone made a case with a BT keyboard built in for iPhones at one point but I've never seen one in the wild. I personally used to have one of those tri-fold "pocket keyboard" units that physically plugged in to the dock port on my Palmpilot, now that Apple's finally on the USB-C train it'd be possible to make one of those universal to all modern phones. Maybe that idea needs a comeback. I wonder if the modern "low profile" mechanical keyswitches would be workable in something like that.