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> Belief in science as an all-encompassing ideology is a minority view among scientists. Scientists are usually careful to stipulate that it's not. I believe t
by mistermann 2y ago
> Belief in science as an all-encompassing ideology is a minority view among scientists. Scientists are usually careful to stipulate that it's not.
I believe that if this was studied carefully (with temporal detail), the reality of the situation would be revealed to be much more interesting than your intuition indicates.
Even the best scientists still have heuristics based consciousness, layers of culture, etc. Consciousness is way more complicated than it reveals to itself (which is what people here are describing, technically / architecturally).
- analog31 2y agoI describe it using Donald Rumsfeld's famous quote: "You go to battle with the army you have." We all wrestle with the limitations of our mental apparatus. Also, reality is always more complicated than any concise description of it. No experienced scientist would claim otherwise.
- mistermann 2y ago> I describe it using Donald Rumsfeld's famous quote: "You go to battle with the army you have." It's a great meme, but all capabilities in existence have not been brought to bear, not even close. > We all wrestle with the limitations of our mental apparatus. Agreed, but to very different degrees, and in very different ways (as in positive wrestling vs negative). > Also, reality is always more complicated than any concise description of it. No experienced scientist would claim otherwise. a) You 2nd sentence is subject to your first. b) You have no way to know this. I on the other hand do: I talk to scientists on the regular who make unsound claims. There is nothing about science that renders its practitioners immune to culture, propaganda, ideological blindness, heuristics, etc (despite it being an extremely popular, faith based belief).