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When are we going to address the government overregulation problem? > Utilizing places as assets is so incredibly damaging to our society. That only happens

When are we going to address the government overregulation problem? > Utilizing places as assets is so incredibly damaging to our society. That only happens because the govt. in cahoots with NIMBYies restricts new development while we have a rising population. This is simple math and economics.

text0404 2y ago
> That only happens because the govt. in cahoots with NIMBYies restricts new development while we have a rising population. there is plenty of unused housing inventory. the problem is that people can no longer afford rents. > When are we going to address the government overregulation problem? don't worry, the supreme court just overturned the chevron doctrine. hope you weren't for right-to-repair or net neutrality! but pesky "overregulation" right? it's all bad if it comes from "the government."
- cscurmudgeon 2y ago
  Respectfully, plenty of data below disproving what you say. > there is plenty of unused housing inventory False: https://www.reddit.com/r/badeconomics/comments/musne8/disproving_the_vacant_homes_myth/ https://www.reddit.com/r/badeconomics/comments/musne8/dispro... What do you say about cities losing literally hundreds of millions on housing funds? https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/04/13/audit-san-jose-failed-to-adequately-track-300-million-in-homelessness-spending/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/04/13/audit-san-jose-failed... > the problem is that people can no longer afford rents And that is because supply is low. Go to the root cause of that: https://sfstandard.com/2024/04/08/san-francisco-new-housing-permits-pace/ https://sfstandard.com/2024/04/08/san-francisco-new-housing-... > San Francisco approved just 7 new homes in 2 months. Why? https://scott-wiener.medium.com/yes-supply-demand-apply-to-housing-even-in-san-francisco-193c1b0c190f https://scott-wiener.medium.com/yes-supply-demand-apply-to-h... Supply/demand is proven science in housing. > it's all bad if it comes from "the government." The other side of the coin is: It's all good if it comes from "the government."! https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/9bipvp/south-park-the-government-loves-you https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/9bipvp/south-park-the-g... You should also read up on the case where the Chevron deference happened in the first place.
  - poldk 2y ago
    Money is a socialized hallucination We’re following along with the pseudoscience and propaganda of the prior generation of post war shellshocked Cold War paranoids Supply demand has more to do with real supply. Even if there’s plenty of housing in BFE no one wants to live there. Where the supply is and other variables matter. Cherry picked social media and corporate news may as well be throwing spaghetti at the wall. This is the colloquial equivalent to p-hacking.
    - cscurmudgeon 2y ago
      Hey, language is a socialized hallucination too. Using that logic, thanks for agreeing with me!
      - poldk 2y ago
        Yeah it is. It’s highly mutable. No need for it to be what you believe it to be. My point is the endless possibilities and only one real reality matters; enough people feel served by society or they’ll forget the words and reach for guns. Your grasp of contemporary memes is not armor against physics.
    - EasyMark 2y ago
      I suppose if that’s the case then human society is a hallucination. It only has as much reality and value as we decide as a group to give it. Any bit of human construct can be considered a hallucination beyond realities like eating, drinking, and expelling without which we cease to exist.
      - poldk 2y ago
        Yep. Society is not immutable physics. Note how it keeps changing despite appeals of prior generations to stay the same. How the species tries to blow itself up. If we were meant to exist forever all these physics things would not be able to harm us. Constrain us to life on Earth. We couldn’t die. Entropy is a bitch.
  - 2y ago
- EasyMark 2y ago
  The people who are cheering for that decision likely won’t be cheering when their tap water looks gray with heavy metals and sulfur/methane gas coming through.
  - cscurmudgeon 2y ago
    Look up the history of why Chevron deference was made in the first place (hint: you won't like it). This forces the legislature to be less lazy and do their jobs well.
clob 2y ago
urbanization not sprawl though simple transportation and ecology
- cscurmudgeon 2y ago
  Either will help, but Nimbyies block one and call for the other to happen!
poldk 2y ago
Simple math and economics take is its old people caretaking the regulations and the nimbyism to insulate their own lives Your take is still filled with euphemism for such things
whoknowsidont 2y ago
>the government overregulation problem By all available evidence we have the opposite problem.

text0404 2y ago

> That only happens because the govt. in cahoots with NIMBYies restricts new development while we have a rising population. there is plenty of unused housing inventory. the problem is that people can no longer afford rents. > When are we going to address the government overregulation problem? don't worry, the supreme court just overturned the chevron doctrine. hope you weren't for right-to-repair or net neutrality! but pesky "overregulation" right? it's all bad if it comes from "the government."

cscurmudgeon 2y ago
Respectfully, plenty of data below disproving what you say. > there is plenty of unused housing inventory False: https://www.reddit.com/r/badeconomics/comments/musne8/disproving_the_vacant_homes_myth/ https://www.reddit.com/r/badeconomics/comments/musne8/dispro... What do you say about cities losing literally hundreds of millions on housing funds? https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/04/13/audit-san-jose-failed-to-adequately-track-300-million-in-homelessness-spending/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/04/13/audit-san-jose-failed... > the problem is that people can no longer afford rents And that is because supply is low. Go to the root cause of that: https://sfstandard.com/2024/04/08/san-francisco-new-housing-permits-pace/ https://sfstandard.com/2024/04/08/san-francisco-new-housing-... > San Francisco approved just 7 new homes in 2 months. Why? https://scott-wiener.medium.com/yes-supply-demand-apply-to-housing-even-in-san-francisco-193c1b0c190f https://scott-wiener.medium.com/yes-supply-demand-apply-to-h... Supply/demand is proven science in housing. > it's all bad if it comes from "the government." The other side of the coin is: It's all good if it comes from "the government."! https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/9bipvp/south-park-the-government-loves-you https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/9bipvp/south-park-the-g... You should also read up on the case where the Chevron deference happened in the first place.
- poldk 2y ago
  Money is a socialized hallucination We’re following along with the pseudoscience and propaganda of the prior generation of post war shellshocked Cold War paranoids Supply demand has more to do with real supply. Even if there’s plenty of housing in BFE no one wants to live there. Where the supply is and other variables matter. Cherry picked social media and corporate news may as well be throwing spaghetti at the wall. This is the colloquial equivalent to p-hacking.
  - cscurmudgeon 2y ago
    Hey, language is a socialized hallucination too. Using that logic, thanks for agreeing with me!
    - poldk 2y ago
      Yeah it is. It’s highly mutable. No need for it to be what you believe it to be. My point is the endless possibilities and only one real reality matters; enough people feel served by society or they’ll forget the words and reach for guns. Your grasp of contemporary memes is not armor against physics.
  - EasyMark 2y ago
    I suppose if that’s the case then human society is a hallucination. It only has as much reality and value as we decide as a group to give it. Any bit of human construct can be considered a hallucination beyond realities like eating, drinking, and expelling without which we cease to exist.
    - poldk 2y ago
      Yep. Society is not immutable physics. Note how it keeps changing despite appeals of prior generations to stay the same. How the species tries to blow itself up. If we were meant to exist forever all these physics things would not be able to harm us. Constrain us to life on Earth. We couldn’t die. Entropy is a bitch.
- 2y ago
EasyMark 2y ago
The people who are cheering for that decision likely won’t be cheering when their tap water looks gray with heavy metals and sulfur/methane gas coming through.
- cscurmudgeon 2y ago
  Look up the history of why Chevron deference was made in the first place (hint: you won't like it). This forces the legislature to be less lazy and do their jobs well.

clob 2y ago

urbanization not sprawl though simple transportation and ecology

cscurmudgeon 2y ago
Either will help, but Nimbyies block one and call for the other to happen!

poldk 2y ago

Simple math and economics take is its old people caretaking the regulations and the nimbyism to insulate their own lives Your take is still filled with euphemism for such things

whoknowsidont 2y ago

>the government overregulation problem By all available evidence we have the opposite problem.