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> spouting DEI and still supporting networking is hypocritical Networking is simply about building relationships with people. This is a skill you will need in

> spouting DEI and still supporting networking is hypocritical Networking is simply about building relationships with people. This is a skill you will need in order to make it through the interview process and make yourself likeable to the hiring manager and the team. To conflate it with DEI which is all about inclusion is pretty low.

giantg2 2y ago
"and make yourself likeable" "To conflate it with DEI which is all about inclusion is pretty low." The need to make yourself likeable disadvantages groups that may not be similar to the hiring manager. It definitely provides bias against nuerodivergent people. So no, I'm not conflating DEI and networking. There is an easily identifiable link between the bias inherent in networking and it's impact on DEI.
- threeseed 2y ago
  So in your ridiculous world you have to be "similar" to someone to be likeable. And please provide some evidence of this link between networking and DEI.
  - giantg2 2y ago
    Reread my comments with an open mind and empathy. It's nice you think my world is ridiculous, but I guess the world is ridiculous for most disabled people.
moneywoes 2y ago
> building relationships with people I was told r.e. networking this is basically doing things for people and not expecting anything in return? Have done this often ( e.g. writing/reviewing resumes, finding job posts, sharing mutual connections who are hiring) and have received nothing in return. Not sure if I'm missing anything
- kayodelycaon 2y ago
  Doing those kind of things brings the opportunity to communicate with someone you may not have otherwise met. It gets you attention. You still have to talk to them and form a relationship like any other interaction. For reasons I don’t understand I’m relatively good at making friends. I certainly have a lot of them. Maybe it’s simply because I am genuinely curious about other people and their interests. (A rather unexpected trait for someone who is quite happy hiding in the proverbial parent’s basement.) I still have a high miss rate. The only way to make friends is meeting people and talking to them. This doesn’t require being in person. Most of my current friends come from the furry community and many of them I met in chat rooms long before I met them in person.

giantg2 2y ago

"and make yourself likeable" "To conflate it with DEI which is all about inclusion is pretty low." The need to make yourself likeable disadvantages groups that may not be similar to the hiring manager. It definitely provides bias against nuerodivergent people. So no, I'm not conflating DEI and networking. There is an easily identifiable link between the bias inherent in networking and it's impact on DEI.

threeseed 2y ago
So in your ridiculous world you have to be "similar" to someone to be likeable. And please provide some evidence of this link between networking and DEI.
- giantg2 2y ago
  Reread my comments with an open mind and empathy. It's nice you think my world is ridiculous, but I guess the world is ridiculous for most disabled people.

moneywoes 2y ago

> building relationships with people I was told r.e. networking this is basically doing things for people and not expecting anything in return? Have done this often ( e.g. writing/reviewing resumes, finding job posts, sharing mutual connections who are hiring) and have received nothing in return. Not sure if I'm missing anything

kayodelycaon 2y ago
Doing those kind of things brings the opportunity to communicate with someone you may not have otherwise met. It gets you attention. You still have to talk to them and form a relationship like any other interaction. For reasons I don’t understand I’m relatively good at making friends. I certainly have a lot of them. Maybe it’s simply because I am genuinely curious about other people and their interests. (A rather unexpected trait for someone who is quite happy hiding in the proverbial parent’s basement.) I still have a high miss rate. The only way to make friends is meeting people and talking to them. This doesn’t require being in person. Most of my current friends come from the furry community and many of them I met in chat rooms long before I met them in person.