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Text for Proofing Fonts (2020)

79 points by ColinWright 2y ago

tooltower 2y ago
This reminds me of the difference between micro-benchmarks vs real programs. I would always include extracts from real texts of a few different types (novels, lists, technical writing, short paragraphs like in a playscript). But a test text like these are also helpful in exercising a few rare cases, like z, q, and certain ligatures.
kazinator 2y ago
It's too much work to go through the paragraph; it needs automation.
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KronisLV 2y ago
I wonder what could be some good test sequences for monospaced programming fonts, like: ,.:;!? 1234567890 {}[]()@#$%^&*-=_+\/<> Common issues: lLiI1oO0 (maybe throw in some ligature related stuff for those who enjoy those in their fonts) I made a super basic site like that for some fonts that I enjoy, but never really put that many in there: https://fonts.kronis.dev/ https://fonts.kronis.dev/ Surprisingly Ubuntu Mono is also pretty good in most respects, maybe I should add it, currently it's a split for either Liberation Mono/Cousine or PT Mono for my programming font of choice, here's a nice font chooser, tournament style: https://www.codingfont.com/ https://www.codingfont.com/ or just a look at bunch of fonts https://www.programmingfonts.org/ https://www.programmingfonts.org/ Not to detract from the article itself, I just stare a lot at fonts while doing programming.
- zX41ZdbW 2y ago
  oO08 iIlL1| g9qCGQ ~-+=> I use it here: https://alexey-milovidov.github.io/font-selector/ https://alexey-milovidov.github.io/font-selector/ (in the "Textarea" examples).
- a_e_k 2y ago
  [Repeating a comment from a few years ago:] When I developed my own coding font (Luculent), the compact sample that I ultimately came up with was: // The five boxing wizards jump #include <stdio.h> // <= quickly. int main(int argc, char **argv) { float il1[]={1-2/3.4,5+6==7/8}; int OxFaced=0xBAD||"[{(CQUINE"; unsigned O0,l1,Z2,S5,G6,B8__XY; printf("@$Hamburgefo%c`",'\n'); return ~7&8^9?0:l1|!"j->k+=*w"; } It has a pangram, lots of confusable pairs of characters adjacent to each other, opening brackets next to each other and near a pipe character, quotes and commas next to each other, lining operators (i.e., ->, += and <=), and every normal punctuation character on a US keyboard. It also happens to be a valid, though useless, C or C++ program.
  - Arrath 2y ago
    Lovely little programmatical 'quick brown fox'!
drsopp 2y ago
I guess proper words for proofing cover most use cases, but you just don't know how a font might be used; what sequence of characters it will be exposed to. I found it useful in my proofing to run every character between every pair in the character set like this for a: aabcdefgh aabcdefgh abacdefgh abcadefgh abcdaefgh abcdeafgh abcdefagh abcdefgah abcdefgha If there is a problem with kerning for %a or a% pairs, it will stick out in this list.

79 points by ColinWright 2y ago

This reminds me of the difference between micro-benchmarks vs real programs. I would always include extracts from real texts of a few different types (novels, lists, technical writing, short paragraphs like in a playscript). But a test text like these are also helpful in exercising a few rare cases, like z, q, and certain ligatures.

kazinator 2y ago

It's too much work to go through the paragraph; it needs automation.

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KronisLV 2y ago

I wonder what could be some good test sequences for monospaced programming fonts, like: ,.:;!? 1234567890 {}[]()@#$%^&*-=_+\/<> Common issues: lLiI1oO0 (maybe throw in some ligature related stuff for those who enjoy those in their fonts) I made a super basic site like that for some fonts that I enjoy, but never really put that many in there: https://fonts.kronis.dev/ https://fonts.kronis.dev/ Surprisingly Ubuntu Mono is also pretty good in most respects, maybe I should add it, currently it's a split for either Liberation Mono/Cousine or PT Mono for my programming font of choice, here's a nice font chooser, tournament style: https://www.codingfont.com/ https://www.codingfont.com/ or just a look at bunch of fonts https://www.programmingfonts.org/ https://www.programmingfonts.org/ Not to detract from the article itself, I just stare a lot at fonts while doing programming.

zX41ZdbW 2y ago
oO08 iIlL1| g9qCGQ ~-+=> I use it here: https://alexey-milovidov.github.io/font-selector/ https://alexey-milovidov.github.io/font-selector/ (in the "Textarea" examples).
a_e_k 2y ago
[Repeating a comment from a few years ago:] When I developed my own coding font (Luculent), the compact sample that I ultimately came up with was: // The five boxing wizards jump #include <stdio.h> // <= quickly. int main(int argc, char **argv) { float il1[]={1-2/3.4,5+6==7/8}; int OxFaced=0xBAD||"[{(CQUINE"; unsigned O0,l1,Z2,S5,G6,B8__XY; printf("@$Hamburgefo%c`",'\n'); return ~7&8^9?0:l1|!"j->k+=*w"; } It has a pangram, lots of confusable pairs of characters adjacent to each other, opening brackets next to each other and near a pipe character, quotes and commas next to each other, lining operators (i.e., ->, += and <=), and every normal punctuation character on a US keyboard. It also happens to be a valid, though useless, C or C++ program.
- Arrath 2y ago
  Lovely little programmatical 'quick brown fox'!

drsopp 2y ago

I guess proper words for proofing cover most use cases, but you just don't know how a font might be used; what sequence of characters it will be exposed to. I found it useful in my proofing to run every character between every pair in the character set like this for a: aabcdefgh aabcdefgh abacdefgh abcadefgh abcdaefgh abcdeafgh abcdefagh abcdefgah abcdefgha If there is a problem with kerning for %a or a% pairs, it will stick out in this list.