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Reminds me of something someone said a while back: > hey remember when the panama papers came out and revealed that all the rich people in the world are part o

Reminds me of something someone said a while back: > hey remember when the panama papers came out and revealed that all the rich people in the world are part of enormous criminal conspiracy to dodge taxes and hoard stolen wealth in offshore accounts and literally nothing happened

fragmede 2y ago
What a tiresome take. Mossack Fonseca was closed due to the leak, and Mossack and Fonseca were charged with money laundering. FIFA was investigated. A bunch of countries recovered a bunch of money due to the leak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers#Recovered_sums_from_litigations,_fines_and_back_taxes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers#Recovered_sums_f... Wikipedia has articles covering the list of things that happened in each country in response to the leak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_Panama_Papers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_Panama_Papers Europe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Europe) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Europe) Asia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Asia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Asia) North America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(North_America) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(North_America) South America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(South_America) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(South_America) Africa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Africa) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Africa) We didn't get the end of Fight Club or Mr. Robot where the global financial industry collapsed and we abolish money and we all live happily ever after, but "literally nothing happened" is just wrong.
- yunohn 2y ago
  > Mossack Fonseca was closed due to the leak, and Mossack and Fonseca were charged with money laundering. Yes and those are literally the dismissed charges this article discusses.
  - pas 2y ago
    if other countries want they can put them on various lists, deny them future cash flows, clients, opportunities, whatever. and of course there have been many regulatory changes since then with regards to KYC/AML. are they enough? (are they even useful compared to how much hassle they are for average people? probably not it tax authorities don't do shit and don't audit rich people. but even that is changing.)
    - yunohn 2y ago
      Yes but that’s not what the headline nor the article discuss. You’re free to misinterpret things till kingdom come, but that’s on you…
      - pas 2y ago
        true, but this thread was about "nothing happened" ... lot of things happened.
janice1999 2y ago
> literally nothing happened > Daphne Anne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese writer, journalist, blogger and anti-corruption activist, who reported on political events in Malta and was known internationally for her investigation of the Panama Papers, and subsequent assassination by car bomb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia
- stavros 2y ago
  At least something happened.
cpach 2y ago
Nothing happened? Tell that to Swedish writer Håkan Nesser who was sentenced to 1,5 years in prison because of tax evasion that was revealed through the Panama papers. I’m not claiming everyone involved got busted, but at least for some it had real consequences. https://www.svt.se/kultur/forfattaren-hakan-nesser-doms-till-fangelse-for-grovt-skattebrott https://www.svt.se/kultur/forfattaren-hakan-nesser-doms-till...
hamasho 2y ago
I've been trying to stop my nihilistic and pessimistic views, cause they don't actually help improve things, but help me cope with injustice without getting hurt. But events like this really hit me. I don't need to be unrealistically optimistic, but it's possible that the situation can be improved a bit and maybe I can play a part in that. Well, if the cost of tax evasion increases by 1%, I can say it's a big win.

fragmede 2y ago

What a tiresome take. Mossack Fonseca was closed due to the leak, and Mossack and Fonseca were charged with money laundering. FIFA was investigated. A bunch of countries recovered a bunch of money due to the leak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers#Recovered_sums_from_litigations,_fines_and_back_taxes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers#Recovered_sums_f... Wikipedia has articles covering the list of things that happened in each country in response to the leak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_Panama_Papers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_Panama_Papers Europe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Europe) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Europe) Asia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Asia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Asia) North America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(North_America) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(North_America) South America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(South_America) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(South_America) Africa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Africa) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers_(Africa) We didn't get the end of Fight Club or Mr. Robot where the global financial industry collapsed and we abolish money and we all live happily ever after, but "literally nothing happened" is just wrong.

yunohn 2y ago
> Mossack Fonseca was closed due to the leak, and Mossack and Fonseca were charged with money laundering. Yes and those are literally the dismissed charges this article discusses.
- pas 2y ago
  if other countries want they can put them on various lists, deny them future cash flows, clients, opportunities, whatever. and of course there have been many regulatory changes since then with regards to KYC/AML. are they enough? (are they even useful compared to how much hassle they are for average people? probably not it tax authorities don't do shit and don't audit rich people. but even that is changing.)
  - yunohn 2y ago
    Yes but that’s not what the headline nor the article discuss. You’re free to misinterpret things till kingdom come, but that’s on you…
    - pas 2y ago
      true, but this thread was about "nothing happened" ... lot of things happened.

janice1999 2y ago

> literally nothing happened > Daphne Anne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese writer, journalist, blogger and anti-corruption activist, who reported on political events in Malta and was known internationally for her investigation of the Panama Papers, and subsequent assassination by car bomb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia

stavros 2y ago
At least something happened.

cpach 2y ago

Nothing happened? Tell that to Swedish writer Håkan Nesser who was sentenced to 1,5 years in prison because of tax evasion that was revealed through the Panama papers. I’m not claiming everyone involved got busted, but at least for some it had real consequences. https://www.svt.se/kultur/forfattaren-hakan-nesser-doms-till-fangelse-for-grovt-skattebrott https://www.svt.se/kultur/forfattaren-hakan-nesser-doms-till...

hamasho 2y ago

I've been trying to stop my nihilistic and pessimistic views, cause they don't actually help improve things, but help me cope with injustice without getting hurt. But events like this really hit me. I don't need to be unrealistically optimistic, but it's possible that the situation can be improved a bit and maybe I can play a part in that. Well, if the cost of tax evasion increases by 1%, I can say it's a big win.