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> When I returned from my trip, my fridge was empty, so I resisted the temptation to buy those products. This has to be my reality. If I buy treats, no matter

> When I returned from my trip, my fridge was empty, so I resisted the temptation to buy those products. This has to be my reality. If I buy treats, no matter how good my intentions are to make them last, they just don't survive in the cupboard more than a couple of days. I have to leave my kitchen mostly empty apart from: diet soda, meat, cheese, yoghurt, peanut butter. Everything else is just too addictive and I keep eating it until it's gone. I do have other stuff, but have to buy it as and when I need it in a quantity that will only last one meal. One suggestion I can give if you like chocolate is to buy some 90% or 95% chocolate. It's hard to eat more than one piece at a time without your mouth feeling quite dry, and a 100g bar can easily last a week. After a while, if you have anything else, even 80%, it'll taste really sweet. But it only take a bar or two of the really easy to eat sweet variety before you'll be hooked on it again.

galangalalgol 2y ago
I tried this and eventually started binging on higher and higher percent chocolate. Eventually I was sitting at work stuffing a handful of crushed toasted Cocoa nibs into my mouth ... I suppose I did end my craving for sweets though. I can't make hard cheeses last more than a couple days either. Leaving the kitchen empty works pretty well for me. But I'll binge on pretty much anything that is left if the hunger hits me.
- tarsinge 2y ago
  Big difference is hard cheese is nutrient dense and leave me without hunger for a far longer time than empty calories simple carbs that basically bypasses the body checks. Lot of times when I am hungry my body just wants protein. 1000kcal of sugars can leave me hungry after one hour. I eat ton of 80% chocolate and hard cheese and don't get any weight. On the other hand with simple carbs and white flour based things (pasta, bread, pastries...) I have to consciously limit myself to a few per weeks otherwise kg starts piling on fast again.
  - thesz 2y ago
    It appears that sourdough is relatively healthy: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18317680/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18317680/ I found that sourdough from local restaurant did not raised blood glucose level significantly (well below the threshold of high blood glucose), looked for a research and voila! here's one. There are others, also showing benefits of sourdough compared to yeast leavened bread. Also, making sourdough at home is easy and fun. ;)
grecy 2y ago
Much alike a recovering alcoholic, it's easier just not to go into a bar. I do exactly the same thing by not having a phone. I know I would be that guy always looking at it instead of engaging with the real world. So I just don't have one. It's better that way.
- doubled112 2y ago
  Sometimes I consider dumping the phone in a drawer. While I haven't quit cold turkey, I've found life much much more peaceful since I uninstalled most of the apps on my phone. Email, chat, maps, and music. I think I left notes and a password manager. Now it isn't trying to get my attention all the time. Even disabling notifications would have helped. A couple of my friends and I host our own Matrix homeservers, so even that is pretty quiet.
stranded22 2y ago
Last a week? Amateur - I can munch through 100% chocolate quite easily (Montezuma Orange is my favourite for UK people - buy in Sainsburys)
fooqux 2y ago
This used to work for me. I'm also fairly frugal by nature, so it was very easy to just not buy the stuff while grocery shopping. But then I got married, and had offspring. I don't do the majority of the shopping any more, and no longer have absolute control of what enters my pantry. And so now I eat everything.
dcchambers 2y ago
Out of sight, out of mind. It's the only thing that works for me. My wife has the ability to have a pantry stocked full of treats and never eat them. I on the other hand have zero willpower in such cases. A pack of oreos will be destroyed in 24 hours, 1 or 2 innocent cookies at a time. Same with chips. These foods just completely break my brain. Yet if I simply don't have those things in the house, I have no cravings for them at all.
- smegger001 2y ago
  Sugary candy is mostly something I can leave alone indefinitely, but baked goods and snack food disapper all to quickly. I have had some luck with using food chemistry in my favor recently though of salting vegetables with MSG to make them more appealling.
  - EasyMark 2y ago
    They also probably have fat and I think that makes them have a synergy that neither fat nor sugar have separately for -some- human brains, including mine. I can have skittles in the cupboard for months. But chocolate chip cookies, even cheap store ones? They aren’t gonna last, so I simply don’t buy them. I depend on the occasional friend dumping a couple on me, but otherwise try to keep them many miles from me.

galangalalgol 2y ago

I tried this and eventually started binging on higher and higher percent chocolate. Eventually I was sitting at work stuffing a handful of crushed toasted Cocoa nibs into my mouth ... I suppose I did end my craving for sweets though. I can't make hard cheeses last more than a couple days either. Leaving the kitchen empty works pretty well for me. But I'll binge on pretty much anything that is left if the hunger hits me.

tarsinge 2y ago
Big difference is hard cheese is nutrient dense and leave me without hunger for a far longer time than empty calories simple carbs that basically bypasses the body checks. Lot of times when I am hungry my body just wants protein. 1000kcal of sugars can leave me hungry after one hour. I eat ton of 80% chocolate and hard cheese and don't get any weight. On the other hand with simple carbs and white flour based things (pasta, bread, pastries...) I have to consciously limit myself to a few per weeks otherwise kg starts piling on fast again.
- thesz 2y ago
  It appears that sourdough is relatively healthy: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18317680/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18317680/ I found that sourdough from local restaurant did not raised blood glucose level significantly (well below the threshold of high blood glucose), looked for a research and voila! here's one. There are others, also showing benefits of sourdough compared to yeast leavened bread. Also, making sourdough at home is easy and fun. ;)

grecy 2y ago

Much alike a recovering alcoholic, it's easier just not to go into a bar. I do exactly the same thing by not having a phone. I know I would be that guy always looking at it instead of engaging with the real world. So I just don't have one. It's better that way.

doubled112 2y ago
Sometimes I consider dumping the phone in a drawer. While I haven't quit cold turkey, I've found life much much more peaceful since I uninstalled most of the apps on my phone. Email, chat, maps, and music. I think I left notes and a password manager. Now it isn't trying to get my attention all the time. Even disabling notifications would have helped. A couple of my friends and I host our own Matrix homeservers, so even that is pretty quiet.

stranded22 2y ago

Last a week? Amateur - I can munch through 100% chocolate quite easily (Montezuma Orange is my favourite for UK people - buy in Sainsburys)

fooqux 2y ago

This used to work for me. I'm also fairly frugal by nature, so it was very easy to just not buy the stuff while grocery shopping. But then I got married, and had offspring. I don't do the majority of the shopping any more, and no longer have absolute control of what enters my pantry. And so now I eat everything.

dcchambers 2y ago

Out of sight, out of mind. It's the only thing that works for me. My wife has the ability to have a pantry stocked full of treats and never eat them. I on the other hand have zero willpower in such cases. A pack of oreos will be destroyed in 24 hours, 1 or 2 innocent cookies at a time. Same with chips. These foods just completely break my brain. Yet if I simply don't have those things in the house, I have no cravings for them at all.

smegger001 2y ago
Sugary candy is mostly something I can leave alone indefinitely, but baked goods and snack food disapper all to quickly. I have had some luck with using food chemistry in my favor recently though of salting vegetables with MSG to make them more appealling.
- EasyMark 2y ago
  They also probably have fat and I think that makes them have a synergy that neither fat nor sugar have separately for -some- human brains, including mine. I can have skittles in the cupboard for months. But chocolate chip cookies, even cheap store ones? They aren’t gonna last, so I simply don’t buy them. I depend on the occasional friend dumping a couple on me, but otherwise try to keep them many miles from me.