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Replacement works for me. Replaced all added sugars stuff (drinks, ice cream, cookies) with fruit and the difference was very noticeable. Fruit also has its own

Replacement works for me. Replaced all added sugars stuff (drinks, ice cream, cookies) with fruit and the difference was very noticeable. Fruit also has its own kind of sugar, but my body runs differently on that compared with food with added sugar.

ImHereToVote 2y ago
Part of the sweetness in berries comes from other sweet compounds like Glycine for example.
- will1am 2y ago
  Berries are my salvation.
sedatk 2y ago
Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits) is more harmful than glucose though.
- gnz11 2y ago
  Come on, are you seriously implying fruit is somehow bad for you now?
  - lambdaone 2y ago
    The parent poster is right in that pure fructose is probably worse for you than an equivalent amount of pure sucrose. But the way that fructose is delivered to your body by digesting fruit - slowly, and in conjuction with other materials, in a way that we have evolved to tolerate - is entirely different from eating the pure chemical.
    - gnz11 2y ago
      The amount of fruit you’d have to consume to ingest unhealthy levels of fructose is astronomical. Worrying about whether fruit is unhealthy is most likely causing you more harm than the fructose in fruit. Don’t worry about eating fruit.
      - coldtea 2y ago
        >The amount of fruit you’d have to consume to ingest unhealthy levels of fructose is astronomical. What's "unhealthy" here? LD50?
  - jakubmazanec 2y ago
    This is some latest research on this topic: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10363705/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10363705/
    - duckmysick 2y ago
      What exactly do you mean by "this topic"? Fruits being bad for you, which is the comment you're replying to? This is the only mention of fruit in the linked paper: > Fructose is a simple sugar that is the primary nutrient in fruit and honey. However, in the western diet, its main source is table sugar (sucrose), which consists of fructose and glucose bound together, and high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), which consists of a blended mixture of fructose and glucose, often with slightly higher concentrations of fructose as testing has suggested humans prefer slightly more fructose as it is sweeter than glucose. Today these ‘added sugars’ account for ≈15% of overall energy intake, with some groups ingesting as much as 20% or more. > Fructose is also generated in the body from glucose. This occurs when glucose levels (i.e. the substrate) are excessive, such as in diabetes, following the ingestion of high glycaemic carbohydrates, and by high carbohydrate diets. Similarly, the grandparent comment "Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits)" should read like this: "Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits, but these days it's primarily from table sugar and processed foods)"
      - jakubmazanec 2y ago
        Yes, thank you; I was in a hurry and didn't write the best comment with the full context.
    - hombre_fatal 2y ago
      This doesn't answer the question. The question is if fruit are associated with negative health outcomes in a human population. What you're doing is saying inflammation is bad and then inferring that exercise is bad because it increases inflammation.
  - coldtea 2y ago
    Not implying, it's a settled thing. The ocassional fruit is ok, but fructose is bad, and smoothies are basically sugar bombs.
    - TaylorAlexander 2y ago
      This is the opposite of the research-backed claims on whole fruits from this video: https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y
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- Dolores12 2y ago
  With every fruit you get healthy dose of fiber that helps digestive system to push residuals out. 3 bananas that will make you full equals 2 cans of 330ml cola and i bet you still will want to eat after that.
- sedatk 2y ago
  Folks, I didn’t imply fruit is bad, but using it as a sugar substitute can be worse than using sugar.
will1am 2y ago
As soon as I stopped eating sugar, I started craving fruits intensely. My body began demanding compensation.
- coldtea 2y ago
  And eating fruits it's almost equally bad sugar wise, especially drinking them in smoothies and such.
  - will1am 2y ago
    It's important to differentiate between the types of sugars and the overall nutritional value of fruits compared to other sugary foods
  - hombre_fatal 2y ago
    Nonsense. Fruit has fiber and all sorts of nutrient benefits. Even your smoothie claim is false: https://www.stylist.co.uk/fitness-health/nutrition/smoothies-blood-sugar-facts/875372 https://www.stylist.co.uk/fitness-health/nutrition/smoothies...
  - TaylorAlexander 2y ago
    Generally, whole fruits are considered to have positive health effects, even in studies of patients with diabetes, at nearly any quantities. https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y
nirav72 2y ago
I use a GCM and one thing I've noticed about fruits in general is that the glucose spike is short. Things level off on the graph fairly quickly with berries. Although there are some fruits that do cause a significant spike. Fruits like grapes, pineapple and bananas are the worst ones.
- TaylorAlexander 2y ago
  Yes generally, whole fruits are considered healthy in any quantity from what research I’ve heard about. https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y

ImHereToVote 2y ago

Part of the sweetness in berries comes from other sweet compounds like Glycine for example.

will1am 2y ago
Berries are my salvation.

sedatk 2y ago

Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits) is more harmful than glucose though.

gnz11 2y ago
Come on, are you seriously implying fruit is somehow bad for you now?
- lambdaone 2y ago
  The parent poster is right in that pure fructose is probably worse for you than an equivalent amount of pure sucrose. But the way that fructose is delivered to your body by digesting fruit - slowly, and in conjuction with other materials, in a way that we have evolved to tolerate - is entirely different from eating the pure chemical.
  - gnz11 2y ago
    The amount of fruit you’d have to consume to ingest unhealthy levels of fructose is astronomical. Worrying about whether fruit is unhealthy is most likely causing you more harm than the fructose in fruit. Don’t worry about eating fruit.
    - coldtea 2y ago
      >The amount of fruit you’d have to consume to ingest unhealthy levels of fructose is astronomical. What's "unhealthy" here? LD50?
- jakubmazanec 2y ago
  This is some latest research on this topic: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10363705/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10363705/
  - duckmysick 2y ago
    What exactly do you mean by "this topic"? Fruits being bad for you, which is the comment you're replying to? This is the only mention of fruit in the linked paper: > Fructose is a simple sugar that is the primary nutrient in fruit and honey. However, in the western diet, its main source is table sugar (sucrose), which consists of fructose and glucose bound together, and high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), which consists of a blended mixture of fructose and glucose, often with slightly higher concentrations of fructose as testing has suggested humans prefer slightly more fructose as it is sweeter than glucose. Today these ‘added sugars’ account for ≈15% of overall energy intake, with some groups ingesting as much as 20% or more. > Fructose is also generated in the body from glucose. This occurs when glucose levels (i.e. the substrate) are excessive, such as in diabetes, following the ingestion of high glycaemic carbohydrates, and by high carbohydrate diets. Similarly, the grandparent comment "Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits)" should read like this: "Fructose (the sugar that comes from fruits, but these days it's primarily from table sugar and processed foods)"
    - jakubmazanec 2y ago
      Yes, thank you; I was in a hurry and didn't write the best comment with the full context.
  - hombre_fatal 2y ago
    This doesn't answer the question. The question is if fruit are associated with negative health outcomes in a human population. What you're doing is saying inflammation is bad and then inferring that exercise is bad because it increases inflammation.
- coldtea 2y ago
  Not implying, it's a settled thing. The ocassional fruit is ok, but fructose is bad, and smoothies are basically sugar bombs.
  - TaylorAlexander 2y ago
    This is the opposite of the research-backed claims on whole fruits from this video: https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y
- deleted 2y ago
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Dolores12 2y ago
With every fruit you get healthy dose of fiber that helps digestive system to push residuals out. 3 bananas that will make you full equals 2 cans of 330ml cola and i bet you still will want to eat after that.
sedatk 2y ago
Folks, I didn’t imply fruit is bad, but using it as a sugar substitute can be worse than using sugar.

will1am 2y ago

As soon as I stopped eating sugar, I started craving fruits intensely. My body began demanding compensation.

coldtea 2y ago
And eating fruits it's almost equally bad sugar wise, especially drinking them in smoothies and such.
- will1am 2y ago
  It's important to differentiate between the types of sugars and the overall nutritional value of fruits compared to other sugary foods
- hombre_fatal 2y ago
  Nonsense. Fruit has fiber and all sorts of nutrient benefits. Even your smoothie claim is false: https://www.stylist.co.uk/fitness-health/nutrition/smoothies-blood-sugar-facts/875372 https://www.stylist.co.uk/fitness-health/nutrition/smoothies...
- TaylorAlexander 2y ago
  Generally, whole fruits are considered to have positive health effects, even in studies of patients with diabetes, at nearly any quantities. https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y

nirav72 2y ago

I use a GCM and one thing I've noticed about fruits in general is that the glucose spike is short. Things level off on the graph fairly quickly with berries. Although there are some fruits that do cause a significant spike. Fruits like grapes, pineapple and bananas are the worst ones.

TaylorAlexander 2y ago
Yes generally, whole fruits are considered healthy in any quantity from what research I’ve heard about. https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y https://youtu.be/bHnsawfk43Y