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Diversity means diversity of thought, or experiencing a different culture. It's not about race or color, which is the focus of most anglo world. I've been work

Diversity means diversity of thought, or experiencing a different culture. It's not about race or color, which is the focus of most anglo world. I've been working with people from Italy, the Balkans and Ukraine for a product. That has been the most true diverse project I've have ever been involved. And this people's input in the product actually mattered. But of course this didn't allow for clear virtue-signaling because everyone was white, and we had balkan sick jokes involved. For most companies diversity is just a checklist.

piva00 2y ago
Exactly, and gender diversity is just another parameter to it. I've been very lucky to work in very diverse environments for the past 10 years, before that (also the time where I emigrated) most of my previous jobs in Brazil were very homogeneous in the R&D team compositions: men, usually young, Brazilians, with nerdy hobbies (videogames, Magic the Gathering, sci-fi media, etc.). For the past 10 years I've worked with Iranians, Israelis, Ukrainians, Russians, Indians, Australians, Brits, Argentinians, Swedes, Norwegians, Danes, Finns, Germans, French, Dutch, Italians, Romanians, Mexicans, Americans, Canadians, Nigerians, South Africans, Moroccans, Chinese, Japanese, Malaysians, Colombians, Venezuelans, Turks, Albanians, Serbians, and the list goes on further but those nationalities are the ones I can vividly remember from the top of my head where people I worked closely together were from. On top of it also a pretty good split between genders, men, women, non-binary, etc. It has given me many, many more perspectives about life in general, about different cultures, also including professionally relevant culture and experiences. It's been one of the greatest things to happen in my life to experience this diversity and expand my own world without requiring all the effort to go visit each one of those places.
readthenotes1 2y ago
If I recall correctly someone at one of the big tech companies got fired for saying that a room full of white guys could show great diversity based on their background. The d in DEI has always been about hiring people of color, not diversity of origin or thought.
- DemocracyFTW2 2y ago
  > If I recall correctly someone at one of the big tech companies got fired for saying that a room full of white guys could show great diversity based on their background This is the most generic rendering of the most generic thing that can happen to a generic person. C'mon if this is for reals Mr Someone almost certainly did not get fired (only) for saying that there's diversity even in a room full of white guys. There was something else.
  - readthenotes1 2y ago
    https://www.bet.com/article/pe65fc/apple-s-black-diversity-chief-steps-down-after-remarks https://www.bet.com/article/pe65fc/apple-s-black-diversity-c... I should have added that link to begin with I suppose...
    - DemocracyFTW2 2y ago
      Thanks for linking to the story!

piva00 2y ago

Exactly, and gender diversity is just another parameter to it. I've been very lucky to work in very diverse environments for the past 10 years, before that (also the time where I emigrated) most of my previous jobs in Brazil were very homogeneous in the R&D team compositions: men, usually young, Brazilians, with nerdy hobbies (videogames, Magic the Gathering, sci-fi media, etc.). For the past 10 years I've worked with Iranians, Israelis, Ukrainians, Russians, Indians, Australians, Brits, Argentinians, Swedes, Norwegians, Danes, Finns, Germans, French, Dutch, Italians, Romanians, Mexicans, Americans, Canadians, Nigerians, South Africans, Moroccans, Chinese, Japanese, Malaysians, Colombians, Venezuelans, Turks, Albanians, Serbians, and the list goes on further but those nationalities are the ones I can vividly remember from the top of my head where people I worked closely together were from. On top of it also a pretty good split between genders, men, women, non-binary, etc. It has given me many, many more perspectives about life in general, about different cultures, also including professionally relevant culture and experiences. It's been one of the greatest things to happen in my life to experience this diversity and expand my own world without requiring all the effort to go visit each one of those places.

readthenotes1 2y ago

If I recall correctly someone at one of the big tech companies got fired for saying that a room full of white guys could show great diversity based on their background. The d in DEI has always been about hiring people of color, not diversity of origin or thought.

DemocracyFTW2 2y ago
> If I recall correctly someone at one of the big tech companies got fired for saying that a room full of white guys could show great diversity based on their background This is the most generic rendering of the most generic thing that can happen to a generic person. C'mon if this is for reals Mr Someone almost certainly did not get fired (only) for saying that there's diversity even in a room full of white guys. There was something else.
- readthenotes1 2y ago
  https://www.bet.com/article/pe65fc/apple-s-black-diversity-chief-steps-down-after-remarks https://www.bet.com/article/pe65fc/apple-s-black-diversity-c... I should have added that link to begin with I suppose...
  - DemocracyFTW2 2y ago
    Thanks for linking to the story!