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The term 'crab bucket' comes to mind. The British public have allowed themselves to be convinced they're being robbed by disabled people and immigrants. In real

by cedws 2y ago

The term 'crab bucket' comes to mind. The British public have allowed themselves to be convinced they're being robbed by disabled people and immigrants. In reality, they're being robbed blind by an elite class of people who use every nook and cranny in law to hide assets and evade tax. Many of them are high up in politics.

curtisblaine 2y ago
Are you sure? Welfare spending is the second-highest voice in public spending at 208.8 billions (highest is health at 211.6) [1]. Tax gaps are currently estimated at 39.8 billions [2]. [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-public-spending-was-calculated-in-your-tax-summary/how-public-spending-was-calculated-in-your-tax-summary https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-public-spendi... [2] https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/measuring-tax-gaps/1-tax-gaps-summary#:~:text=Headline%20tax%20gap%20estimates%20are,95.2%25%20of%20all%20tax%20due https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/measuring-tax-gaps/...
- paulryanrogers 2y ago
  Are there things more important than the welfare of the people?
  - workingdog 2y ago
    Giving people money isn't the same thing as welfare. Ask any drug addict what they would do with more money. Most of them are truthful.
    - paulryanrogers 2y ago
      Is that what's happening? I thought it was going to housing, medical, and food assistance.
- piva00 2y ago
  > Tax gaps are currently estimated at 39.8 billions [2]. And guess what the Tories chose to do instead of increasing taxes on the richer cohort of the population? Cut budgets for welfare programs, increasing poverty, making society less productive: more sick, less educated, individuals in poverty stay in poverty for longer further reducing economic output and straining public services, staying in poverty longer also mean a smaller tax contribution, so on and so forth.
BigParm 2y ago
I mean, immigration has been exploited by the owning class to force wages down. Say in Canada, the workforce was set to be short around 2 million people. They're not even all retired yet and Canada has imported around 8 million bodies. I don't know why people feel they can't ethically criticize immigration. TBH I suspect you've been conditioned by the owners.

by cedws 2y ago

curtisblaine 2y ago

Are you sure? Welfare spending is the second-highest voice in public spending at 208.8 billions (highest is health at 211.6) [1]. Tax gaps are currently estimated at 39.8 billions [2]. [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-public-spending-was-calculated-in-your-tax-summary/how-public-spending-was-calculated-in-your-tax-summary https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-public-spendi... [2] https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/measuring-tax-gaps/1-tax-gaps-summary#:~:text=Headline%20tax%20gap%20estimates%20are,95.2%25%20of%20all%20tax%20due https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/measuring-tax-gaps/...

paulryanrogers 2y ago
Are there things more important than the welfare of the people?
- workingdog 2y ago
  Giving people money isn't the same thing as welfare. Ask any drug addict what they would do with more money. Most of them are truthful.
  - paulryanrogers 2y ago
    Is that what's happening? I thought it was going to housing, medical, and food assistance.
piva00 2y ago
> Tax gaps are currently estimated at 39.8 billions [2]. And guess what the Tories chose to do instead of increasing taxes on the richer cohort of the population? Cut budgets for welfare programs, increasing poverty, making society less productive: more sick, less educated, individuals in poverty stay in poverty for longer further reducing economic output and straining public services, staying in poverty longer also mean a smaller tax contribution, so on and so forth.

BigParm 2y ago

I mean, immigration has been exploited by the owning class to force wages down. Say in Canada, the workforce was set to be short around 2 million people. They're not even all retired yet and Canada has imported around 8 million bodies. I don't know why people feel they can't ethically criticize immigration. TBH I suspect you've been conditioned by the owners.