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You might want to watch calling this a pomodoro app. Last I heard the guy that popularized this name treats it as a trademark. He goes after people.

localfirst 2y ago
pomodoro means tomato in italian tho
- conception 2y ago
  Windows, Apple, Google are all common words. Trademarks be a trademarking.
  - aaron695 2y ago
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  - localfirst 2y ago
    https://harris-sliwoski.com/blog/trademarking-foreign-words-be-careful/ https://harris-sliwoski.com/blog/trademarking-foreign-words-...
  - sltkr 2y ago
    Google isn't a word; it is a misspelling of “googol” [1], itself hardly a common word. Or more technically correct: google wasn't a word when Google was founded, but today google is listed in dictionaries [2] as a verb that means searching for something on Google. 1. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/googol https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/googol 2. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/google https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/google
  - muzani 2y ago
    imagine getting sued for using the word apple in things
    - brewdad 2y ago
      Um. Apple records (the Beatles) had a lengthy legal dispute with an American fruit company from Northern California.
    - cantSpellSober 2y ago
      Imagine a small mini golf course getting sued by Monster Cable for using the word "monster." https://www.techdirt.com/2008/12/03/monster-mini-golf-using-ebay-to-fight-monster-cables-trademark-lawsuit/ https://www.techdirt.com/2008/12/03/monster-mini-golf-using-...
  - alwillis 2y ago
    Sure, but a trademark applies for products and services in the same category. If someone makes Apple crayons, that’s okay. But somebody making media or computing devices with the name “Apple” in it, that’s a problem.
    - cantSpellSober 2y ago
      True, but the trademark is in this category though, "Pomodoro" along with "Pomodoro Timer." > Examples of products can be, but are not limited to: > - Timer > - Software application – desktop, server, mobile https://www.pomodorotechnique.com/pomodoro-trademark-guidelines.php#:~:text=%E2%80%9CPomodoro%C2%AE%E2%80%9D%20is%20a%20registered,Cirillo's%20company%20Cirillo%20Consulting%20GmbH https://www.pomodorotechnique.com/pomodoro-trademark-guideli.... Just saying. Not sure they'd come after a project this size (thanks for sharing OP!). You could probably safely make a line of Pomodoro brand jet skis.
      - localfirst 2y ago
        holy crap just read through the site and it was bizarre how somebody could spend so much effort reinventing an old Japanese time management technique by slapping an Italian name and demanding rent from anyone using the italian word for tomato
- cantSpellSober 2y ago
  As noted in the trademark > The English translation of "POMODORO" in the mark is "tomato" or "tomato plant". https://trademarks.justia.com/857/90/pomodoro-85790837.html https://trademarks.justia.com/857/90/pomodoro-85790837.html
masswerk 2y ago
Also, FOCAL used to be thing, a programming language by DEC, kind of a precursor of BASIC. (E.g., Lunar Lander was originally written in FOCAL.)
- geoelectric 2y ago
  I feel like that’s unlikely to cause much confusion.
  - masswerk 2y ago
    Personally, I think we should respect the classics. Quite literary overwriting computer history (e.g, as far as search results are concerned) may not be the wisest thing to do.
    - oxygen3428 2y ago
      I think this is a pretty naive take to have here because it assumes that you cannot have two or more things/events/people with the same name but completely different details and history within the context of computer science while being useful. I feel pretty confident in assuring you that FOCAL https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCAL_(programming_language) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCAL_(programming_language), which first appeared 56 years ago is ever going to have to compete with this app in the language space. In fact as the link to the Wikipedia clairifies, there are other things named FOCAL other than the “Formulating On-line Calculations in Algebraic Language” programming language. If this was another programming language and it didn’t explicitly callout its namesake I think I’d probably side with you here, but this isn’t a programming language and you implying that someone isn’t respecting the classics here is misguided at best. For example, If someone created an application called Java that helped you brew the perfect cup of coffee or maybe plan a trip to the island of Java, that certainly would not be something that is “not respecting the classics” and “overwriting computer history” for Java the programming language. In general I agree we should strive to preserve history, especially in such a young field. However criticizing an application developer over their name choice where there is no actual conflict with the things that share its name is pedantry.

localfirst 2y ago

pomodoro means tomato in italian tho

conception 2y ago
Windows, Apple, Google are all common words. Trademarks be a trademarking.
- aaron695 2y ago
  [dead]
- localfirst 2y ago
  https://harris-sliwoski.com/blog/trademarking-foreign-words-be-careful/ https://harris-sliwoski.com/blog/trademarking-foreign-words-...
- sltkr 2y ago
  Google isn't a word; it is a misspelling of “googol” [1], itself hardly a common word. Or more technically correct: google wasn't a word when Google was founded, but today google is listed in dictionaries [2] as a verb that means searching for something on Google. 1. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/googol https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/googol 2. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/google https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/google
- muzani 2y ago
  imagine getting sued for using the word apple in things
  - brewdad 2y ago
    Um. Apple records (the Beatles) had a lengthy legal dispute with an American fruit company from Northern California.
  - cantSpellSober 2y ago
    Imagine a small mini golf course getting sued by Monster Cable for using the word "monster." https://www.techdirt.com/2008/12/03/monster-mini-golf-using-ebay-to-fight-monster-cables-trademark-lawsuit/ https://www.techdirt.com/2008/12/03/monster-mini-golf-using-...
- alwillis 2y ago
  Sure, but a trademark applies for products and services in the same category. If someone makes Apple crayons, that’s okay. But somebody making media or computing devices with the name “Apple” in it, that’s a problem.
  - cantSpellSober 2y ago
    True, but the trademark is in this category though, "Pomodoro" along with "Pomodoro Timer." > Examples of products can be, but are not limited to: > - Timer > - Software application – desktop, server, mobile https://www.pomodorotechnique.com/pomodoro-trademark-guidelines.php#:~:text=%E2%80%9CPomodoro%C2%AE%E2%80%9D%20is%20a%20registered,Cirillo's%20company%20Cirillo%20Consulting%20GmbH https://www.pomodorotechnique.com/pomodoro-trademark-guideli.... Just saying. Not sure they'd come after a project this size (thanks for sharing OP!). You could probably safely make a line of Pomodoro brand jet skis.
    - localfirst 2y ago
      holy crap just read through the site and it was bizarre how somebody could spend so much effort reinventing an old Japanese time management technique by slapping an Italian name and demanding rent from anyone using the italian word for tomato
cantSpellSober 2y ago
As noted in the trademark > The English translation of "POMODORO" in the mark is "tomato" or "tomato plant". https://trademarks.justia.com/857/90/pomodoro-85790837.html https://trademarks.justia.com/857/90/pomodoro-85790837.html

masswerk 2y ago

Also, FOCAL used to be thing, a programming language by DEC, kind of a precursor of BASIC. (E.g., Lunar Lander was originally written in FOCAL.)

geoelectric 2y ago
I feel like that’s unlikely to cause much confusion.
- masswerk 2y ago
  Personally, I think we should respect the classics. Quite literary overwriting computer history (e.g, as far as search results are concerned) may not be the wisest thing to do.
  - oxygen3428 2y ago
    I think this is a pretty naive take to have here because it assumes that you cannot have two or more things/events/people with the same name but completely different details and history within the context of computer science while being useful. I feel pretty confident in assuring you that FOCAL https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCAL_(programming_language) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCAL_(programming_language), which first appeared 56 years ago is ever going to have to compete with this app in the language space. In fact as the link to the Wikipedia clairifies, there are other things named FOCAL other than the “Formulating On-line Calculations in Algebraic Language” programming language. If this was another programming language and it didn’t explicitly callout its namesake I think I’d probably side with you here, but this isn’t a programming language and you implying that someone isn’t respecting the classics here is misguided at best. For example, If someone created an application called Java that helped you brew the perfect cup of coffee or maybe plan a trip to the island of Java, that certainly would not be something that is “not respecting the classics” and “overwriting computer history” for Java the programming language. In general I agree we should strive to preserve history, especially in such a young field. However criticizing an application developer over their name choice where there is no actual conflict with the things that share its name is pedantry.