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It's not "church or jail". The shelter is just one option. They could also crash on a friend's couch, or go somewhere with a shelter that doesn't require religi

It's not "church or jail". The shelter is just one option. They could also crash on a friend's couch, or go somewhere with a shelter that doesn't require religious service.

jjk166 2y ago
Or they could just stop being poor and buy a mansion. No one is sleeping outside because they don't want to sleep on a friend's couch. It's a government ultimatum to force people to attend religious services, plain and simple.
- IncreasePosts 2y ago
  No, it's an ultimatum to not turn places intended for the public into your personal campsite. Even if your circumstances are bad.
  - jjk166 2y ago
    That's not what the word ultimatum means, and they are the public.
    - IncreasePosts 2y ago
      Yes. It is what ultimatum means, because they can no longer flout the law without punishment. They are "members of the public". That doesn't mean they can unilaterally dictate the laws of society. If they were "the public", then they could just change the law. I wonder why they can't? Because most people don't want anyone setting up their household in a public park.
      - jjk166 2y ago
        They weren't unilaterally dictating the laws of society, until 5 hours ago it was the US constitution which said this was the law in this country. 6 people unilaterally dictated the new law of society that enables the mob to ignore the rights of the few. Enjoy your park.
        IncreasePosts 2y ago
        Believe it or not, but the legitimacy of our institutions aren't in question after a ruling you dislike. And I will enjoy my park. Maybe the rate at which I have been hearing stories about children getting pricked with dirty needles will lessen with this ruling.
FireBeyond 2y ago
Actually, in Boise, it literally was. If a religious shelter said they had a bed (and one of them said they would "always take someone in", even if they didn't have a bed), it was an arrestable offense to be sleeping on public property. > They could also crash on a friend's couch Ahhh, AirBnB for the homeless, of course. Because when you're profoundly troubled by mental illness, or addiction issues, everyone opens their doors and homes to you.

It's not "church or jail". The shelter is just one option. They could also crash on a friend's couch, or go somewhere with a shelter that doesn't require religious service.

jjk166 2y ago

Or they could just stop being poor and buy a mansion. No one is sleeping outside because they don't want to sleep on a friend's couch. It's a government ultimatum to force people to attend religious services, plain and simple.

IncreasePosts 2y ago
No, it's an ultimatum to not turn places intended for the public into your personal campsite. Even if your circumstances are bad.
- jjk166 2y ago
  That's not what the word ultimatum means, and they are the public.
  - IncreasePosts 2y ago
    Yes. It is what ultimatum means, because they can no longer flout the law without punishment. They are "members of the public". That doesn't mean they can unilaterally dictate the laws of society. If they were "the public", then they could just change the law. I wonder why they can't? Because most people don't want anyone setting up their household in a public park.
    - jjk166 2y ago
      They weren't unilaterally dictating the laws of society, until 5 hours ago it was the US constitution which said this was the law in this country. 6 people unilaterally dictated the new law of society that enables the mob to ignore the rights of the few. Enjoy your park.
      - IncreasePosts 2y ago
        Believe it or not, but the legitimacy of our institutions aren't in question after a ruling you dislike. And I will enjoy my park. Maybe the rate at which I have been hearing stories about children getting pricked with dirty needles will lessen with this ruling.

FireBeyond 2y ago

Actually, in Boise, it literally was. If a religious shelter said they had a bed (and one of them said they would "always take someone in", even if they didn't have a bed), it was an arrestable offense to be sleeping on public property. > They could also crash on a friend's couch Ahhh, AirBnB for the homeless, of course. Because when you're profoundly troubled by mental illness, or addiction issues, everyone opens their doors and homes to you.