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There is a charity run homeless shelter in the town where they were camping on public grounds.
by IncreasePosts 2y ago
There is a charity run homeless shelter in the town where they were camping on public grounds.
- jjk166 2y agoWhich requires people staying there to attend religious services.
- IncreasePosts 2y agoThe horror. They can just go and...not pay attention? Just like most people who attend religious services.
- jjk166 2y agoGo to church or go to jail is not a choice we force people to make in this country.
- IncreasePosts 2y agoIt's not "church or jail". The shelter is just one option. They could also crash on a friend's couch, or go somewhere with a shelter that doesn't require religious service.
- jjk166 2y agoOr they could just stop being poor and buy a mansion. No one is sleeping outside because they don't want to sleep on a friend's couch. It's a government ultimatum to force people to attend religious services, plain and simple.
- IncreasePosts 2y agoNo, it's an ultimatum to not turn places intended for the public into your personal campsite. Even if your circumstances are bad.
- jjk166 2y agoThat's not what the word ultimatum means, and they are the public.
- IncreasePosts 2y agoYes. It is what ultimatum means, because they can no longer flout the law without punishment. They are "members of the public". That doesn't mean they can unilaterally dictate the laws of society. If they were "the public", then they could just change the law. I wonder why they can't? Because most people don't want anyone setting up their household in a public park.
- jjk166 2y agoThey weren't unilaterally dictating the laws of society, until 5 hours ago it was the US constitution which said this was the law in this country. 6 people unilaterally dictated the new law of society that enables the mob to ignore the rights of the few. Enjoy your park.
- IncreasePosts 2y agoBelieve it or not, but the legitimacy of our institutions aren't in question after a ruling you dislike. And I will enjoy my park. Maybe the rate at which I have been hearing stories about children getting pricked with dirty needles will lessen with this ruling.
- FireBeyond 2y agoActually, in Boise, it literally was. If a religious shelter said they had a bed (and one of them said they would "always take someone in", even if they didn't have a bed), it was an arrestable offense to be sleeping on public property. > They could also crash on a friend's couch Ahhh, AirBnB for the homeless, of course. Because when you're profoundly troubled by mental illness, or addiction issues, everyone opens their doors and homes to you.
- wolrah 2y ago> There is a charity run homeless shelter in the town where they were camping on public grounds. That "charity" is a religious organization which requires all residents to abide by strict "Christian values" including immediate abstinence from all drugs (even nicotine) and sex, attendance to multiple daily sermons, etc. while also working for the organization. The group filed a brief with the court arguing for the ruling we got, stating that people were choosing to camp on the streets instead of go to the shelter as if that weren't an indictment of their offering that they believe a significant portion of their residents were only there because they would otherwise be arrested and not because it was actually a better choice than being on the street.