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The Chevron deference case is one of the most cited court cases in the US and this decision threatens to throw Federal regulations into chaos as a bunch of Dist

The Chevron deference case is one of the most cited court cases in the US and this decision threatens to throw Federal regulations into chaos as a bunch of Districts redecide decades of precedent. Since the appeals courts can reach contradictory decisions and keep them in play until the Supreme Court makes a conclusive decision, any company at the national level will have to figure out how to square that circle. Regardless of where you are on the political spectrum, this is going to cause a practical mess just like the Dobbs decision, except Chevron deference impacts every area of federal regulation.

Auracle 2y ago
Sometimes you need to refactor the code, even when it’s going to be a huge mess to do so.
- CobrastanJorji 2y ago
  Yes, sometimes you just need to refactor the code in prod by surprise via force pushing and telling everybody else to start fixing their failing integration tests.
- throwup238 2y ago
  The courts are incapable of refactoring by design. They can only decide the cases litigated before them, they can't take a holistic view of the legislation and put forward coherent reforms. In my career I have never seen messy refactorings go well. They are carefully planned and executed piece of by piece instead of throwing everything out of the window.
- mywittyname 2y ago
  This is more like deleting the backups then shutting off the A/C in the server room. It's not going to be feasible to run the country this way. So something has to give, either the agencies tell SCOTUS to fuck off, agencies stop operating, or they file suit for every little thing and clog up the already overworked justice system (which I guess means that we end up with behind closed doors mediation). Since the President is the boss of agency heads, I guess it's up to the President to decide their favored course of action.
  - Auracle 2y ago
    The country ran just fine before 1984. Some would argue better, though I couldn't say if they were right.
    - ceejayoz 2y ago
      > The country ran just fine before 1984. Yes, and Chevron decided "let's keep it that way". It established SCOTUS precedent for what was already the status quo.
    - fzeroracer 2y ago
      Are you aware of how polluted cities and towns were in the 70s? Why the EPA came into existence? Why Chevron became codified into law?
      - TimTheTinker 2y ago
        The 1984 decision only codified the status quo: federal agencies were already doing what it affirmed as lawful. The EPA didn't start functioning properly in 1984. If the EPA currently relies on its private interpretation of ambiguous passages of federal law, that's messed up and needs fixing. Have them write a draft bill to codify how they currently interpret vague law, and let a senator introduce the bill on the floor.
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Auracle 2y ago

Sometimes you need to refactor the code, even when it’s going to be a huge mess to do so.

CobrastanJorji 2y ago
Yes, sometimes you just need to refactor the code in prod by surprise via force pushing and telling everybody else to start fixing their failing integration tests.
throwup238 2y ago
The courts are incapable of refactoring by design. They can only decide the cases litigated before them, they can't take a holistic view of the legislation and put forward coherent reforms. In my career I have never seen messy refactorings go well. They are carefully planned and executed piece of by piece instead of throwing everything out of the window.
mywittyname 2y ago
This is more like deleting the backups then shutting off the A/C in the server room. It's not going to be feasible to run the country this way. So something has to give, either the agencies tell SCOTUS to fuck off, agencies stop operating, or they file suit for every little thing and clog up the already overworked justice system (which I guess means that we end up with behind closed doors mediation). Since the President is the boss of agency heads, I guess it's up to the President to decide their favored course of action.
- Auracle 2y ago
  The country ran just fine before 1984. Some would argue better, though I couldn't say if they were right.
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    > The country ran just fine before 1984. Yes, and Chevron decided "let's keep it that way". It established SCOTUS precedent for what was already the status quo.
  - fzeroracer 2y ago
    Are you aware of how polluted cities and towns were in the 70s? Why the EPA came into existence? Why Chevron became codified into law?
    - TimTheTinker 2y ago
      The 1984 decision only codified the status quo: federal agencies were already doing what it affirmed as lawful. The EPA didn't start functioning properly in 1984. If the EPA currently relies on its private interpretation of ambiguous passages of federal law, that's messed up and needs fixing. Have them write a draft bill to codify how they currently interpret vague law, and let a senator introduce the bill on the floor.
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