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What I'm hearing is that qualitative is clearly more important than quantitative.

tivert 2y ago
> What I'm hearing is that qualitative is clearly more important than quantitative. I'm hearing a lot of "my-side likes this, therefore changing it is wrong." Liberals think it's the highest expression of the beauty of our republic when precedent is overturned to take things in a more liberal direction; but when precedent is overturned to take things in a different direction, they think it's an unjust violation of stare decisis and get outraged. As understood (by liberals), the courts are a ratchet that moves things from less liberal to more liberal. To go the other way is evidence of inexcusable corruption and a threat to democracy itself, warranting urgent and extreme action to save society.
- rootusrootus 2y ago
  > To go the other way is evidence of inexcusable corruption and a threat to democracy itself, warranting urgent an extreme action to save society. So we live in interesting times. Great.
- FireBeyond 2y ago
  And to listen to many conservatives, any time a left-leaning decision is made by the court, we are one step closer to chaos, anarchy, depravity, fire and brimstone and the apocalypse. Don't act like complaints about the courts are just liberal tantrums.
  - tivert 2y ago
    > Don't act like complaints about the courts are just liberal tantrums. They're not usually so much tantrums as biased, hypocritical argumentation developed backwards to arrive at the politically desired result.
    - FireBeyond 2y ago
      Again, s/liberal/conservative/g and you get a comment just as accurate. But do continue to beat the "liberals suck" drum.
      - tivert 2y ago
        Except it wouldn't apply to this thread or the reaction to this event. If you're being a jerk, and I'm commenting on your behavior, I'm not making any kind of error if I don't mention how Steve was being a jerk two weeks ago. And honestly, insisting that I talk about Steve would be an effort to deny responsibility and distract from your own behavior.
        FireBeyond 2y ago
        While corporations are cheering about the devastating the ability of the EPA to attempt to enforce its writ, "environmental protection", it doesn't make someone a jerk to lament the negative impact therein.

> What I'm hearing is that qualitative is clearly more important than quantitative. I'm hearing a lot of "my-side likes this, therefore changing it is wrong." Liberals think it's the highest expression of the beauty of our republic when precedent is overturned to take things in a more liberal direction; but when precedent is overturned to take things in a different direction, they think it's an unjust violation of stare decisis and get outraged. As understood (by liberals), the courts are a ratchet that moves things from less liberal to more liberal. To go the other way is evidence of inexcusable corruption and a threat to democracy itself, warranting urgent and extreme action to save society.

rootusrootus 2y ago
> To go the other way is evidence of inexcusable corruption and a threat to democracy itself, warranting urgent an extreme action to save society. So we live in interesting times. Great.
FireBeyond 2y ago
And to listen to many conservatives, any time a left-leaning decision is made by the court, we are one step closer to chaos, anarchy, depravity, fire and brimstone and the apocalypse. Don't act like complaints about the courts are just liberal tantrums.
- tivert 2y ago
  > Don't act like complaints about the courts are just liberal tantrums. They're not usually so much tantrums as biased, hypocritical argumentation developed backwards to arrive at the politically desired result.
  - FireBeyond 2y ago
    Again, s/liberal/conservative/g and you get a comment just as accurate. But do continue to beat the "liberals suck" drum.
    - tivert 2y ago
      Except it wouldn't apply to this thread or the reaction to this event. If you're being a jerk, and I'm commenting on your behavior, I'm not making any kind of error if I don't mention how Steve was being a jerk two weeks ago. And honestly, insisting that I talk about Steve would be an effort to deny responsibility and distract from your own behavior.
      - FireBeyond 2y ago
        While corporations are cheering about the devastating the ability of the EPA to attempt to enforce its writ, "environmental protection", it doesn't make someone a jerk to lament the negative impact therein.