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Supreme Court Expands Cities' Power to Remove Homeless Camps

3 points by krustyburger 2y ago

krustyburger 2y ago
https://archive.is/LlIFE https://archive.is/LlIFE
999900000999 2y ago
Will be really interesting to see if we ever get a focused effort to actually build more housing, or will homeless just keep going up. If you have tons of homeless camps that tend to expand every year, something is broken.
- practicemaths 2y ago
  If you build more housing, especially more affordable, then housing prices start to go down and that makes banks and landowners unhappy.
- techostritch 2y ago
  My best hope is this may actually encourage people to come up with better solutions; it feels like we've got into this stalemate where no one wants to fix the problem, and homeless camps are not great compromises.
- floxy 2y ago
  Does anyone know why boarding houses went away? Where it seems like you rent a tiny room with a bed, but have a shared bathroom, shared dining area, etc.. It seems like they were widespread enough to make unremarked appearances in old movies from say the 1930's.
  - 999900000999 2y ago
    You have an absurd number of requirements for building a new apartment. It's starting to be reformed, but for years in LA you needed to build a parking space for each apartment. https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/los-angeles-parking-housing-apartment-development-street-ed1-affordable-transportation-cars https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/los-angeles-park... Most new apartments have these really ugly parking lots attached. It doesn't take a genius to say without the parking lots housing would be cheaper. Koreatown , and much of Downtown LA has older housing stock that's effectively grandfathered in. A long long time ago you could get an apartment for less that 600$. That's what ( if we inflation adjust it, I guess 900$ is reasonable) working class people can afford. In reality this tiny apartments are now around 1500$ or so Compare this to Chicago where you can get a 2Bdrm for 1400$. Split that with a roommate and you can make it on minimum wage. Plus you don't need a car, so you can ride public transportation for next to nothing. It's even cheaper if you qualify ( seniors, Medicare recipients). https://www.transitchicago.com/reduced-fare-programs/ https://www.transitchicago.com/reduced-fare-programs/ Boarding houses are coming back, mutated by venture capitalist to the point where your paying for the "co living" experience.

3 points by krustyburger 2y ago

https://archive.is/LlIFE https://archive.is/LlIFE

Will be really interesting to see if we ever get a focused effort to actually build more housing, or will homeless just keep going up. If you have tons of homeless camps that tend to expand every year, something is broken.

practicemaths 2y ago
If you build more housing, especially more affordable, then housing prices start to go down and that makes banks and landowners unhappy.
techostritch 2y ago
My best hope is this may actually encourage people to come up with better solutions; it feels like we've got into this stalemate where no one wants to fix the problem, and homeless camps are not great compromises.
floxy 2y ago
Does anyone know why boarding houses went away? Where it seems like you rent a tiny room with a bed, but have a shared bathroom, shared dining area, etc.. It seems like they were widespread enough to make unremarked appearances in old movies from say the 1930's.
- 999900000999 2y ago
  You have an absurd number of requirements for building a new apartment. It's starting to be reformed, but for years in LA you needed to build a parking space for each apartment. https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/los-angeles-parking-housing-apartment-development-street-ed1-affordable-transportation-cars https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/los-angeles-park... Most new apartments have these really ugly parking lots attached. It doesn't take a genius to say without the parking lots housing would be cheaper. Koreatown , and much of Downtown LA has older housing stock that's effectively grandfathered in. A long long time ago you could get an apartment for less that 600$. That's what ( if we inflation adjust it, I guess 900$ is reasonable) working class people can afford. In reality this tiny apartments are now around 1500$ or so Compare this to Chicago where you can get a 2Bdrm for 1400$. Split that with a roommate and you can make it on minimum wage. Plus you don't need a car, so you can ride public transportation for next to nothing. It's even cheaper if you qualify ( seniors, Medicare recipients). https://www.transitchicago.com/reduced-fare-programs/ https://www.transitchicago.com/reduced-fare-programs/ Boarding houses are coming back, mutated by venture capitalist to the point where your paying for the "co living" experience.