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> Ask HN: How to reuse waste heat and water from AI datacenters? - Steam Turbine - Thermoelectrics (solid state) - Gravel Battery, Sand Battery (solid state)

> Ask HN: How to reuse waste heat and water from AI datacenters? - Steam Turbine - Thermoelectrics (solid state) - Gravel Battery, Sand Battery (solid state) - OTEC: Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (needs a 20C gradient) - Water Sterilization - Heat Pipe contract - Commercial and Residential HVAC Heat - Air Filter Production (CO2, Graphene, Heat) - Water Filter Production (CO2, Graphene, Heat) - Onsite manufacturing with Carbon & Heat (See: Datacenter Inputs) - Carbon-based Chip Production (2D Graphene and other forms of Carbon) - Thermoforming products (e.g. out of now easily-captured CO2 to Graphene and other forms of Carbon) - Geopolymer production: pads to mount racks on, bricks, radially-curved outwall blocks - Open-Source CFD: Computational Fluid Dynamics; use the waste heat to pay for CFD HPC time to reduce the waste heat with better materials, better facility design with passive thermofluidics and energy reclamation - Datacenter Inputs: [Earthmoving, Infrastructure], Water, Air, Concrete, Beams, Electricity, Turbines, Bolts, Racks, Fans, PCs, Copper power Wires and data Cabling, Bandwidth, Fiber Cabling - Datacenter Outputs: Boiled Water, Warm Air, Data, recyclable building materials, Electricity

westurner 2y ago
> Ask HN: How to reuse waste heat and water from AI datacenters? > - Steam Turbine > - Thermoelectrics > - Gravel Battery, Sand Battery > - OTEC: Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (needs a 20C gradient) "Ask HN: Does OTEC work with datacenter heat, or thermoelectrics?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40821522 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40821522 > - Water Sterilization FWIU most datacenters waste the sterilized water as steam, which has some evaporative cooling value? In which markets is it already possible for datacenters [and other industrial production facilities] to sell or give sterilized water to the water supply utility? "Ask HN: Methods for removing parts per trillions of PFAS from water?" (2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40036764 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40036764 ; RO: Reverse Osmosis, Zwitterionic hydrogels (that are reusable if washed with ethanol) > - Heat Pipe contract E.g. Copenhagen Atomics wants to sell a heat pipe contract promise and manage the (Thorium+ waste burner) heat production. It takes extra heat to pump heat through a tube underground to a building next door, but it is worth it. > - Commercial and Residential HVAC Heat The OTEC Wikipedia article mentions Ammonia as a Working fluid (a thermofluid), but Ammonia. Sustainable thermofluids for heat pumps would be a good use for materials design AI. "AI Designs Magnet Free of Rare-Earth Metals in Just 3 Months" (2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40775959 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40775959 > - Air Filter Production (CO2, Graphene, Heat) > - Water Filter Production (CO2, Graphene, Heat) > - Onsite manufacturing with Carbon & Heat (See: Datacenter Inputs) Also meet ASTM spec for which products produced onsite. > - Carbon-based Chip Production (2D Graphene and other forms of Carbon) "Ask HN: Can CPUs etc. be made from just graphene and/or other carbon forms?" (2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40719725 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40719725 > - Thermoforming products (e.g. out of now easily-captured CO2 to Graphene and other forms of Carbon) > - Geopolymer production: pads to mount racks on, bricks, radially-curved outwall blocks Is this new peptide glass a functional substitute for "water glass" in other geopolymer formulas? "Self-healing glass from a simple peptide – just add water" (2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40677095 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40677095 > - Open-Source CFD: Computational Fluid Dynamics; use the waste heat to pay for CFD HPC time to reduce the waste heat with better materials, better facility design with passive thermofluidics and energy reclamation Quantum CFD. https://westurner.github.io/hnlog/#comment-39954180 https://westurner.github.io/hnlog/#comment-39954180 Ctrl-F CFD, SQS > - Datacenter Inputs: [Earthmoving, Infrastructure], Water, Air, Concrete, Beams, Electricity, Turbines, Bolts, Racks, Fans, PCs, Copper power Wires and data Cabling, Bandwidth, Fiber Cabling Biocomposites and Titanium are strong enough for beams and fan blades; though on corrosion due to water, titanium probably wins. "Cheap yet ultrapure titanium metal might enable widespread use in industry" (2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40768549 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40768549 Is there a carbon-based copper alternative for cabling that's flexible enough to work at CAT-5/6/7/8 ethernet cable; 40GBase-T at 2000 Mhz? There appear to be electron vortices and superconductivity in carbon at room temperature. Can we replace copper with carbon in cables and computers? > - Datacenter Outputs: Boiled Water, Warm Air, Data, recyclable building materials, Electricity - "Ask HN: Why don't datacenters have passive rooflines like Net Zero homes?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37579505 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37579505

westurner 2y ago

> Ask HN: How to reuse waste heat and water from AI datacenters? > - Steam Turbine > - Thermoelectrics > - Gravel Battery, Sand Battery > - OTEC: Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (needs a 20C gradient) "Ask HN: Does OTEC work with datacenter heat, or thermoelectrics?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40821522 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40821522 > - Water Sterilization FWIU most datacenters waste the sterilized water as steam, which has some evaporative cooling value? In which markets is it already possible for datacenters [and other industrial production facilities] to sell or give sterilized water to the water supply utility? "Ask HN: Methods for removing parts per trillions of PFAS from water?" (2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40036764 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40036764 ; RO: Reverse Osmosis, Zwitterionic hydrogels (that are reusable if washed with ethanol) > - Heat Pipe contract E.g. Copenhagen Atomics wants to sell a heat pipe contract promise and manage the (Thorium+ waste burner) heat production. It takes extra heat to pump heat through a tube underground to a building next door, but it is worth it. > - Commercial and Residential HVAC Heat The OTEC Wikipedia article mentions Ammonia as a Working fluid (a thermofluid), but Ammonia. Sustainable thermofluids for heat pumps would be a good use for materials design AI. "AI Designs Magnet Free of Rare-Earth Metals in Just 3 Months" (2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40775959 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40775959 > - Air Filter Production (CO2, Graphene, Heat) > - Water Filter Production (CO2, Graphene, Heat) > - Onsite manufacturing with Carbon & Heat (See: Datacenter Inputs) Also meet ASTM spec for which products produced onsite. > - Carbon-based Chip Production (2D Graphene and other forms of Carbon) "Ask HN: Can CPUs etc. be made from just graphene and/or other carbon forms?" (2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40719725 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40719725 > - Thermoforming products (e.g. out of now easily-captured CO2 to Graphene and other forms of Carbon) > - Geopolymer production: pads to mount racks on, bricks, radially-curved outwall blocks Is this new peptide glass a functional substitute for "water glass" in other geopolymer formulas? "Self-healing glass from a simple peptide – just add water" (2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40677095 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40677095 > - Open-Source CFD: Computational Fluid Dynamics; use the waste heat to pay for CFD HPC time to reduce the waste heat with better materials, better facility design with passive thermofluidics and energy reclamation Quantum CFD. https://westurner.github.io/hnlog/#comment-39954180 https://westurner.github.io/hnlog/#comment-39954180 Ctrl-F CFD, SQS > - Datacenter Inputs: [Earthmoving, Infrastructure], Water, Air, Concrete, Beams, Electricity, Turbines, Bolts, Racks, Fans, PCs, Copper power Wires and data Cabling, Bandwidth, Fiber Cabling Biocomposites and Titanium are strong enough for beams and fan blades; though on corrosion due to water, titanium probably wins. "Cheap yet ultrapure titanium metal might enable widespread use in industry" (2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40768549 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40768549 Is there a carbon-based copper alternative for cabling that's flexible enough to work at CAT-5/6/7/8 ethernet cable; 40GBase-T at 2000 Mhz? There appear to be electron vortices and superconductivity in carbon at room temperature. Can we replace copper with carbon in cables and computers? > - Datacenter Outputs: Boiled Water, Warm Air, Data, recyclable building materials, Electricity - "Ask HN: Why don't datacenters have passive rooflines like Net Zero homes?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37579505 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37579505