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Yes, almost all food these days is an "industrial product" at some point in the pipeline. That's the reality of living in an industrial society and not an agra

Yes, almost all food these days is an "industrial product" at some point in the pipeline. That's the reality of living in an industrial society and not an agrarian one.

lukan 2y ago
Not at all. Even in this industrial society it is possible to buy raw ingredients and cook yourself and many people do it. (and as far as I know, many studies imply that is healthier, than heavily processed food, filled with conservatives, additives and whatever)
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  >Even in this industrial society it is possible to buy raw ingredients and cook yourself and many people do it. Those raw ingredients are also "industrial products". Did you think that bag of flour you bought was hand-milled by someone after they hand-picked the wheat? It came from a factory, just like most store-bought bread.
  - lukan 2y ago
    Actually one can buy hand milled flour, but I do not think that makes sense. I am not against big machines (and milling has not been done by hand for centuries). I am against adding all kind of things into my food, that happened to not be proofen cancer inducing yet.
    - alephnerd 2y ago
      It's almost impossible to find hand-milled flour in a store or online. You might be confusing "Stone Ground" flour which is ground using a machine [0] [0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SolMVg3_Ac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SolMVg3_Ac
      - lukan 2y ago
        I never tried to buy it myself, but I know I saw it on a organic market (in europe) advertised as such at least once. Basically, a extremely esoteric niché obviously.
- quickthrowman 2y ago
  Any flour you purchase was processed by Cargill, ADM, or Bunge (or on their behalf). I’m sure there’s artisan grains available for a premium price, but virtually all commodity crops are processed by the big 3 agribusinesses. It is impossible to avoid industrial food processing unless you grow it yourself.

Yes, almost all food these days is an "industrial product" at some point in the pipeline. That's the reality of living in an industrial society and not an agrarian one.

lukan 2y ago

Not at all. Even in this industrial society it is possible to buy raw ingredients and cook yourself and many people do it. (and as far as I know, many studies imply that is healthier, than heavily processed food, filled with conservatives, additives and whatever)

shiroiushi 2y ago
>Even in this industrial society it is possible to buy raw ingredients and cook yourself and many people do it. Those raw ingredients are also "industrial products". Did you think that bag of flour you bought was hand-milled by someone after they hand-picked the wheat? It came from a factory, just like most store-bought bread.
- lukan 2y ago
  Actually one can buy hand milled flour, but I do not think that makes sense. I am not against big machines (and milling has not been done by hand for centuries). I am against adding all kind of things into my food, that happened to not be proofen cancer inducing yet.
  - alephnerd 2y ago
    It's almost impossible to find hand-milled flour in a store or online. You might be confusing "Stone Ground" flour which is ground using a machine [0] [0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SolMVg3_Ac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SolMVg3_Ac
    - lukan 2y ago
      I never tried to buy it myself, but I know I saw it on a organic market (in europe) advertised as such at least once. Basically, a extremely esoteric niché obviously.
quickthrowman 2y ago
Any flour you purchase was processed by Cargill, ADM, or Bunge (or on their behalf). I’m sure there’s artisan grains available for a premium price, but virtually all commodity crops are processed by the big 3 agribusinesses. It is impossible to avoid industrial food processing unless you grow it yourself.