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It's a scale difference. If you're making bread product for a million people you have a massive factory.. And nuts be there

portaouflop 2y ago
Of course, everything weird and whacky about the US can be explained because it’s just so much bigger - you wouldn’t understand coming from such a tiny country.
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  The psychology of this comment aside, I don't think any country is so small it can't fit a massive factory in it. Unless you're writing from Vatican City, perhaps?
  - portaouflop 2y ago
    My point was that all countries have big factories but in the US they are somehow unable to make sure no cross contamination occurs. It’s just impossible because US scale /s
    - robertlagrant 2y ago
      Are you saying all other countries have zero cross contamination? Can you cite that?
    - kalleboo 2y ago
      The EU allows cross contamination with the same "may contain" labeling as the US previously did.
    - LorenPechtel 2y ago
      It's possible for the US to take note of it because of scale. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen elsewhere.
- RugnirViking 2y ago
  This exact issue happens in all of the EU as well...
ehnto 2y ago
If the regulations had teeth and they weren't allowed to cross contaminate at all, they would build a process that achieves that. Instead they get to put a few labels on there and just accept that they'll lose some customers who are allergic, save some money not building a new process.
- kragen 2y ago
  you have misunderstood the situation and are suggesting that they enact the regulation that they did actually enact, which is the one that led to this situation
  - ehnto 2y ago
    No I didn't, I understand what they have done to skirt the regulations but that is what I mean. It's so easy to get around the regulations, even the new one, they have no teeth. It's clear the companies are acting in bad faith but there is no recourse. If it weren't for companies acting in bad faith, they wouldn't have to play regulator cat and mouse. If you removed the regulations altogether, your big bakers would be even more lax with allergens and people would get sick.
    - account42 2y ago
      So what regulation do you want? One that outlaws sesame bread? No thanks. As long as making sesame bread is allowed while making bread without sesame is prohibitively expensive (because you need to ensure there are not even trace amounts present) it's obvious what most companies will choose.
- WrongAssumption 2y ago
  You aren’t following what is hsppening. The regulation does exactly that, not allow any cross contamination. So they are adding sesame as an ingredient and labeling it as such.
  - ehnto 2y ago

portaouflop 2y ago

Of course, everything weird and whacky about the US can be explained because it’s just so much bigger - you wouldn’t understand coming from such a tiny country.

robertlagrant 2y ago
The psychology of this comment aside, I don't think any country is so small it can't fit a massive factory in it. Unless you're writing from Vatican City, perhaps?
- portaouflop 2y ago
  My point was that all countries have big factories but in the US they are somehow unable to make sure no cross contamination occurs. It’s just impossible because US scale /s
  - robertlagrant 2y ago
    Are you saying all other countries have zero cross contamination? Can you cite that?
  - kalleboo 2y ago
    The EU allows cross contamination with the same "may contain" labeling as the US previously did.
  - LorenPechtel 2y ago
    It's possible for the US to take note of it because of scale. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen elsewhere.
RugnirViking 2y ago
This exact issue happens in all of the EU as well...

ehnto 2y ago

If the regulations had teeth and they weren't allowed to cross contaminate at all, they would build a process that achieves that. Instead they get to put a few labels on there and just accept that they'll lose some customers who are allergic, save some money not building a new process.

kragen 2y ago
you have misunderstood the situation and are suggesting that they enact the regulation that they did actually enact, which is the one that led to this situation
- ehnto 2y ago
  No I didn't, I understand what they have done to skirt the regulations but that is what I mean. It's so easy to get around the regulations, even the new one, they have no teeth. It's clear the companies are acting in bad faith but there is no recourse. If it weren't for companies acting in bad faith, they wouldn't have to play regulator cat and mouse. If you removed the regulations altogether, your big bakers would be even more lax with allergens and people would get sick.
  - account42 2y ago
    So what regulation do you want? One that outlaws sesame bread? No thanks. As long as making sesame bread is allowed while making bread without sesame is prohibitively expensive (because you need to ensure there are not even trace amounts present) it's obvious what most companies will choose.
WrongAssumption 2y ago
You aren’t following what is hsppening. The regulation does exactly that, not allow any cross contamination. So they are adding sesame as an ingredient and labeling it as such.
- ehnto 2y ago