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There is a wealth of science on stretching. https://www.bradapp.com/docs/rec/stretching/ https://www.bradapp.com/docs/rec/stretching/ is (I think) an evolution

by nsguy 2y ago

There is a wealth of science on stretching. https://www.bradapp.com/docs/rec/stretching/ https://www.bradapp.com/docs/rec/stretching/ is (I think) an evolution of the "old" rec.stretching FAQ which was pretty good way back. https://www.amazon.ca/Stretching-Scientifically-Guide-Flexibility-Training/dp/0940149451 https://www.amazon.ca/Stretching-Scientifically-Guide-Flexib... These are relatively old resources but worth reading and then updating. At the risk of being harsh to the author, everything he knew about stretching was wrong ;)

a_c 2y ago
If it is the case, perhaps do the community a favour?
- nsguy 2y ago
  I donno if you're suggesting I write a blog about stretching? ;) I think Andrew Huberman did a podcast about this topic and he's usually pretty thorough. This summary seems good to me: https://www.hubermanlab.com/newsletter/stretching-protocols-to-increase-flexibility-and-support-general-health https://www.hubermanlab.com/newsletter/stretching-protocols-...
adrian_b 2y ago
At your first link, it is said the same thing as the main discovery of the parent article, i.e. that it is required to hold a stretch "for a prolonged period of time", otherwise stretching is not effective. So the author might have been able to find from the beginning how to do effective stretching by searching carefully the available literature, but the conclusions seem fine. A useful information in the parent article is giving a numeric value for the "a prolonged period of time" from your link, i.e. as being "at least 2 minutes".
- nsguy 2y ago
  Yeah, that has been known for a while, I guess at least since the 1960's but given I've seen something similar in Yoga I'd guess way further back. The more important bit though is that there are actually much more effective methods, i.e. while (EDIT: "simple"/non-PNF) static stretching maybe has some place in your routine, depending on your goals, you generally shouldn't rely on them for improving your flexibility. I practice Karate and it becomes obvious pretty quickly that the small amount of static stretching that's pretty common in many Karate warmup routines does almost nothing for your flexibility. EDIT: It seems some people include PNF under the umbrella of "static stretches" vs. e.g. dynamic or ballistic. When I'm using the term I'm referring to "simple" static stretches. I think Tom Kurz calls those "static active" or something like that. EDIT2: or they're called isometric stretches in certain literature.

by nsguy 2y ago

a_c 2y ago

If it is the case, perhaps do the community a favour?

nsguy 2y ago
I donno if you're suggesting I write a blog about stretching? ;) I think Andrew Huberman did a podcast about this topic and he's usually pretty thorough. This summary seems good to me: https://www.hubermanlab.com/newsletter/stretching-protocols-to-increase-flexibility-and-support-general-health https://www.hubermanlab.com/newsletter/stretching-protocols-...

adrian_b 2y ago

At your first link, it is said the same thing as the main discovery of the parent article, i.e. that it is required to hold a stretch "for a prolonged period of time", otherwise stretching is not effective. So the author might have been able to find from the beginning how to do effective stretching by searching carefully the available literature, but the conclusions seem fine. A useful information in the parent article is giving a numeric value for the "a prolonged period of time" from your link, i.e. as being "at least 2 minutes".

nsguy 2y ago
Yeah, that has been known for a while, I guess at least since the 1960's but given I've seen something similar in Yoga I'd guess way further back. The more important bit though is that there are actually much more effective methods, i.e. while (EDIT: "simple"/non-PNF) static stretching maybe has some place in your routine, depending on your goals, you generally shouldn't rely on them for improving your flexibility. I practice Karate and it becomes obvious pretty quickly that the small amount of static stretching that's pretty common in many Karate warmup routines does almost nothing for your flexibility. EDIT: It seems some people include PNF under the umbrella of "static stretches" vs. e.g. dynamic or ballistic. When I'm using the term I'm referring to "simple" static stretches. I think Tom Kurz calls those "static active" or something like that. EDIT2: or they're called isometric stretches in certain literature.