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This all feels like some Orwellian nightmare to me. Things like TikTok and X shouldn't require any ID verification in my mind; the rest of this fiasco just unde

This all feels like some Orwellian nightmare to me. Things like TikTok and X shouldn't require any ID verification in my mind; the rest of this fiasco just underscores all the other reasons why this is a bad idea.

BLKNSLVR 2y ago
I agree wholeheartedly, and I'm going to go a bit further... I think that I'm either out-of-touch or far enough outside the bubble to be able to provide an objective viewpoint, but: Needing to verify government issued ID to create an account for high-in-the-clouds pure "lifestyle" services such as Twitter and TikTok? Fuck me, is this how far we've come? Is this the destination anyone actually wanted to reach?
- raxxorraxor 2y ago
  > Is this the destination anyone actually wanted to reach? The services you register at love to ID you. Government pretents it tries to protect minors, but I simply do not believe them. And if so, this certainly would not be the way, on the contrary, they expose them to additional threats.
heavyset_go 2y ago
Several states passed legislation that requires age verification for social media, and this is how it's implemented. Companies are also incentivized to do it to prove their actual active user counts versus bots.
Grimblewald 2y ago
The thing with all these leaks is that ID's are rapidly becoming worth less and less for the sake of actually proving your identity. Part of me believes a lot of this is intentional to try force people into using bio-metric ID like iris scans or finger prints to verify, since physical ID's are so widely leaked and so thoroughly distributed to criminals that they're no longer trustworthy documents.
- r0ks0n 2y ago
  that's a bit off the wall, don't you think?
  - Grimblewald 2y ago
    I certainly hope so.
SoftTalker 2y ago
Neither should Uber. I never needed to show ID to hail a cab. You just stood at the corner and waived your arm. Are we talking about Uber drivers here? That makes some sense. But passengers? (I don't know, I don't use Uber).
- sneak 2y ago
  Why does it make sense for drivers?
  - tirpen 2y ago
    Because a company should know the identities of the people who work for them.
  - Traubenfuchs 2y ago
    https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/story/2024-01-11/woman-allegedly-raped-by-uber-driver-sues-rideshare-giant-for-negligence-assault https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/story/2024-01...
  - mrWiz 2y ago
    Ensuring that their drivers have a valid drivers license at least makes a little sense.
  - taormina 2y ago
    Because you need a valid driver's license to drive, so if I'm contracting you to do any amount of driving, an extremely standard practice is to see if your license is good.
- HaloZero 2y ago
  Drivers are background checked but honestly they probably get more abuse and attacks than passengers. After all there's no accountability on riders but there is accountability on the drivers.
macic 2y ago
Exactly. You should NEVER give these companies your ID for exactly this reason.

BLKNSLVR 2y ago

I agree wholeheartedly, and I'm going to go a bit further... I think that I'm either out-of-touch or far enough outside the bubble to be able to provide an objective viewpoint, but: Needing to verify government issued ID to create an account for high-in-the-clouds pure "lifestyle" services such as Twitter and TikTok? Fuck me, is this how far we've come? Is this the destination anyone actually wanted to reach?

raxxorraxor 2y ago
> Is this the destination anyone actually wanted to reach? The services you register at love to ID you. Government pretents it tries to protect minors, but I simply do not believe them. And if so, this certainly would not be the way, on the contrary, they expose them to additional threats.

heavyset_go 2y ago

Several states passed legislation that requires age verification for social media, and this is how it's implemented. Companies are also incentivized to do it to prove their actual active user counts versus bots.

Grimblewald 2y ago

The thing with all these leaks is that ID's are rapidly becoming worth less and less for the sake of actually proving your identity. Part of me believes a lot of this is intentional to try force people into using bio-metric ID like iris scans or finger prints to verify, since physical ID's are so widely leaked and so thoroughly distributed to criminals that they're no longer trustworthy documents.

r0ks0n 2y ago
that's a bit off the wall, don't you think?
- Grimblewald 2y ago
  I certainly hope so.

SoftTalker 2y ago

Neither should Uber. I never needed to show ID to hail a cab. You just stood at the corner and waived your arm. Are we talking about Uber drivers here? That makes some sense. But passengers? (I don't know, I don't use Uber).

sneak 2y ago
Why does it make sense for drivers?
- tirpen 2y ago
  Because a company should know the identities of the people who work for them.
- Traubenfuchs 2y ago
  https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/story/2024-01-11/woman-allegedly-raped-by-uber-driver-sues-rideshare-giant-for-negligence-assault https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/story/2024-01...
- mrWiz 2y ago
  Ensuring that their drivers have a valid drivers license at least makes a little sense.
- taormina 2y ago
  Because you need a valid driver's license to drive, so if I'm contracting you to do any amount of driving, an extremely standard practice is to see if your license is good.
HaloZero 2y ago
Drivers are background checked but honestly they probably get more abuse and attacks than passengers. After all there's no accountability on riders but there is accountability on the drivers.

macic 2y ago

Exactly. You should NEVER give these companies your ID for exactly this reason.