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even if it were 10%, we shouldn't expect 90% of consumers to subsidize the other 10%
by int3 2y ago
even if it were 10%, we shouldn't expect 90% of consumers to subsidize the other 10%
- mitthrowaway2 2y agoI'm not sure how to separate this mindset from one that would have commercial buildings not be required to include elevators and wheelchair ramps. Do you also think that's an unfair burden to put on the roughly-90% of people who are not mobility-impaired? (Not implying any judgement either way, just curious if this is a consistent viewpoint).
- int3 2y agoI think one difference is that there isn't a great alternative option in the case of commercial buildings -- if you have a job in a given building that doesn't accommodate your disability, you can't just go find a different building. But insofar as food is concerned, you could pay more for more carefully-manufactured food, or just cook for yourself
- ozgrakkurt 2y agoBut then you are putting that burden on those people. You don’t have to work in that commercial building either you can find another job for example
- olalonde 2y ago> Do you also think that's an unfair burden to put on the roughly-90% of people who are not mobility-impaired? Not op, but I share his view and don't think commercial buildings should be forced to accommodate people who are mobility-impaired.
- Elinvynia 2y agoThen you should hope to never become mobility impaired :) Remember, we are all just temporarily abled and one accident away from needing accomodation from society.
- hot_gril 2y agoExactly. It's like insurance, even if you have no sympathy, you're probably ok paying a little for other people's accidents because you could just as easily have one. Allergens are different, though.
- olalonde 2y agoI doubt it would change my opinion though. It's a matter of principle for me.
- valicord 2y agoI guess we should repeal the Americans with Disabilities Act then?
- int3 2y agounironically. would love to have those berkeley lectures back online
- bnralt 2y agoYes? If the government can find a better way to help people with disabilities, great. But small business being sued because a booth is 6 inches too small, or universities having to take down lectures because they lacked close captioning seems to clearly go to far to me. People seem to have a terrible time understanding diffused societal costs and opportunity costs.
- throwaway173738 2y agoI don’t think either of those things is in the spirit of the ADA. ADA requires reasonable accommodation. So if it would be unreasonable, the law says the accommodation isn’t necessary. What I see in those two instances is judicial overreach and a college not wanting to appear insensitive. Some day if you find yourself with limited mobility you will be thankful the ADA requires the things it does, because you would find it challenging to live in society without it. The market of “disabled people wanting to shop in a store” is vanishingly small and totally unserved without at least some regulation. I’m sure it offends your free market principles, but the free market isn’t the best thing for all of us.
- Der_Einzige 2y agoYou won't like how popular such a repeal would be. Americans really hate the less fortunate of their society.
- daemin 2y agoThis sort of thought implies not believing in insurance of any kind. Why should people pay into a common fund when only a small percentage of them will ever use it.
- int3 2y agoPeople generally don't develop allergies randomly in life. There's no insurance value here.
- daemin 2y agoPeople can develop allergies during their lifetime, it's not just something that you're born with. There's also ongoing studies trying to desensitise people's allergies so that they can deal with foods more easily. So a person's allergy status can and does change during their lifetime. But my message was about the general principle of insurance being the very thing your comment was against. The situation where the vast majority of people pay some cost of which only a few need to utilise.
- int3 2y ago> People can develop allergies during their lifetime, it's not just something that you're born with. Sure, but the likelihood of that is low enough that insuring against that isn't worth it for most people > But my message was about the general principle of insurance being the very thing your comment was against. The situation where the vast majority of people pay some cost of which only a few need to utilise. No, the principle of insurance is that people pay to hedge against some event that has a reasonable likelihood of happening to them at some point. Whether it's a majority or a minority paying for it is not central to the concept of insurance.
- daemin 2y agoInsurance only works if the majority pay but only the minority get paid. Anything else and you risk not getting paid if the event occurs.