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I think this is a sham and the FDA is overstepping. 0.2% of the population have sesame allergies. Maybe its higher the recent numbers I saw from a government st

I think this is a sham and the FDA is overstepping. 0.2% of the population have sesame allergies. Maybe its higher the recent numbers I saw from a government study gave this number.

jurassicfoxy 2y ago
Isn't it about establishing a framework that people can trust, and closing loopholes? Just because the specifics are about sesame seeds, isn't that how the law works? Some stupid specific case forms the groundwork for the entire system?
- infecto 2y ago
  I don’t know honestly. I understand the spirit of it but I also don’t believe a factory should have to be serve markets that it chooses not too. My point which I did not get to very well is that I think the FDA is in a weird spot. I understand their side but I also wonder how a bakery can legally and with the spirit of the law decide to not serve customers with allergies.
  - Miner49er 2y ago
    It's not forced to serve markets. They are just not allowed to say their products contain sesame when they don't. They are mislabeling their products, and the FDA's job is to ensure products are labeled accurately.
    - infecto 2y ago
      I am not sure which is why I think its a confusing spot. From the article... - "FDA officials indicated that allergen labeling is a “not a substitute” for preventing cross-contamination in factories." - "some companies began adding small amounts of sesame..FDA officials said that violated the spirit, but not the letter, of federal regulations" Hence my open ended question, how do you legally and with the spirit of the law not serve the allergy market? If you allergen labeling is not a substitute for preventing cross-contamination...what if I as a baker/factory don't care about cross contamination?
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    - s1artibartfast 2y ago
      Bust saying they don't is a legal claim that they can be sued or fined for being wrong, and brings extra cost to prove it. Seems like "may contain trace xxx" is a factual statement if they don't ensure otherwise.
Jaygles 2y ago
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- kgwgk 2y ago
  > 0.2% of the current US population is 6.6 million people. Math doesn't check out. > If you hosted an event of 500 people, you could expect around 10 people to have a sesame allergy. Same. > 65,000 [...] ~1,300 Again.
- kbelder 2y ago
  1 person, not 10, and 130, not 1,300. Doesn't really affect your point, though.
- infecto 2y ago
  I don't know fully what your math was showing but this is my math. sesame: 0.7 million FARE citation: https://www.foodallergy.org/sites/default/files/2020-06/FARE%20Food%20Allergy%20Facts%20and%20Stats%20rev%202020-06-04.pdf https://www.foodallergy.org/sites/default/files/2020-06/FARE... US Population: 341mm 341 * .002 = 0.682mm Some rounding errors but I think math stands.

I think this is a sham and the FDA is overstepping. 0.2% of the population have sesame allergies. Maybe its higher the recent numbers I saw from a government study gave this number.

jurassicfoxy 2y ago

Isn't it about establishing a framework that people can trust, and closing loopholes? Just because the specifics are about sesame seeds, isn't that how the law works? Some stupid specific case forms the groundwork for the entire system?

infecto 2y ago
I don’t know honestly. I understand the spirit of it but I also don’t believe a factory should have to be serve markets that it chooses not too. My point which I did not get to very well is that I think the FDA is in a weird spot. I understand their side but I also wonder how a bakery can legally and with the spirit of the law decide to not serve customers with allergies.
- Miner49er 2y ago
  It's not forced to serve markets. They are just not allowed to say their products contain sesame when they don't. They are mislabeling their products, and the FDA's job is to ensure products are labeled accurately.
  - infecto 2y ago
    I am not sure which is why I think its a confusing spot. From the article... - "FDA officials indicated that allergen labeling is a “not a substitute” for preventing cross-contamination in factories." - "some companies began adding small amounts of sesame..FDA officials said that violated the spirit, but not the letter, of federal regulations" Hence my open ended question, how do you legally and with the spirit of the law not serve the allergy market? If you allergen labeling is not a substitute for preventing cross-contamination...what if I as a baker/factory don't care about cross contamination?
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  - s1artibartfast 2y ago
    Bust saying they don't is a legal claim that they can be sued or fined for being wrong, and brings extra cost to prove it. Seems like "may contain trace xxx" is a factual statement if they don't ensure otherwise.

Jaygles 2y ago

kgwgk 2y ago
> 0.2% of the current US population is 6.6 million people. Math doesn't check out. > If you hosted an event of 500 people, you could expect around 10 people to have a sesame allergy. Same. > 65,000 [...] ~1,300 Again.
kbelder 2y ago
1 person, not 10, and 130, not 1,300. Doesn't really affect your point, though.
infecto 2y ago
I don't know fully what your math was showing but this is my math. sesame: 0.7 million FARE citation: https://www.foodallergy.org/sites/default/files/2020-06/FARE%20Food%20Allergy%20Facts%20and%20Stats%20rev%202020-06-04.pdf https://www.foodallergy.org/sites/default/files/2020-06/FARE... US Population: 341mm 341 * .002 = 0.682mm Some rounding errors but I think math stands.