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What are they?

• kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
  Agriculture and food processors want their undocumented workers.
  • simondotau 2y ago
    The transition to documented humanoid robots might take less than a decade.
    • SoftTalker 2y ago
      Only if they are cheaper than a human. Which seems unlikely, for this kind of work.
      • simondotau 2y ago
        Given time, what seems unlikely today will eventually be inevitable. With sufficient design iteration and manufacturing scale, there's no reason why a humanoid robot couldn't be cheaper to manufacture than a compact car. That's competitive with a single year of unskilled human labour — and that's before you account for the robot working 7 days a week, 18+ hours a day, for many years. No messing around with undocumented workers, no risk of unionising, no sexual harassment accusations, no training costs (after training the first robot), no worker injuries resulting in expensive litigation.
• cscurmudgeon 2y ago
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  • hot_gril 2y ago
    Yeah but a mandatory national ID or voter ID isn't what the comment a few up is asking for. Driver's license is an optional form of ID as far as the govt is concerned, but this doesn't stop Uber from requiring it. The state or federal govt could help prove that someone has a valid DL without that person having to give the original DL to Uber.
    • cscurmudgeon 2y ago
      Even voter ids would be optional. The govt. won't force you to have one. Voting is a right unlike driving but driving is more important to livelihood and life (which are rights) and yet we require driver's licenses to drive. Ideally, national (voter) ids should be free and obtainable with minimum effort.
      • EasyMark 2y ago
        There are restrictions on all rights. I don’t see a problem with requiring an ID, whether DL, PP, or just a personal ID. There can be loopholes but it should require some documentation and not simply “I am Kaiser Soze” in the Name blank
      • mulmen 2y ago
        > Ideally, national (voter) ids should be free and obtainable with minimum effort. Except they definitely won't be. See: the entire south. Election integrity can be maintained without voter IDs as evidenced by the fact that we have a couple centuries of successful elections without them. The concept exists only as a way to disenfranchise voters.
        • hot_gril 2y ago
          Every democratic country in the world with successful elections has voter ID* except for the US, unless I missed one. I don't know if there's some way people were disenfranchised as a result. For the past couple of centuries here, we don't have a way to prove that election integrity was maintained. * checked either at registration time or polling time
          • mulmen 2y ago
            We do actually have a way to validate election integrity because we have voter registration. If someone impersonates me and casts a vote in my name that is detected when I try to cast it again. There’s zero credible evidence that it is needed and clear evidence that it will be used to disenfranchise voters. It’s a feel-good “common-sense” issue but that juice ain’t worth the squeeze.