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I think you call instant noodles "Ramen" in US. Never heard of rice instant noodles before .. Typically [1]: > Noodle production starts with dissolving the sal

I think you call instant noodles "Ramen" in US. Never heard of rice instant noodles before .. Typically [1]: > Noodle production starts with dissolving the salt, starch, and flavoring in water to form a mixture that is then added to the flour. The dough is then left for a period of time to mature, then for even distribution of the ingredients and hydration of the particles in the dough, it is kneaded. After it is kneaded, the dough is made into two sheets compounded into one single noodle belt by being put through two rotating rollers. This process is repeated to develop gluten more easily as the sheet is folded and passed through the rollers several times. This will create the stringy and chewy texture found in instant noodles. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_noodles#Production https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_noodles#Production

_DeadFred_ 2y ago
I guess I assumed people would consider ramen a highly processed food. USA instant ramen also often comes pre-fried. In the USA there's 'just soak in hot water' rice noodle packs though I normally use the soak in hot water mung bean noodles. Both of which would be considered highly processed.
- theteapot 2y ago
  Process doesn't sound much different to some other types of pasta and bread. So I guess bread and pasta are UPF too? I think I'm safe with my Ramen ... Main thing that worries me is unintended contamination from cooking process and packaging TBH.
  - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
    It's considered processed when the bran and germ layers are removed and you are left consuming only a small part of the original foodstuff (with all the fiber and most nutrition removed). Most instant ramen is also fried, which then adds a lot of trans fats that would have never been part of historical food (trans fats are industrially created fats that taste really good but the main consideration for manufacturers is they have a long shelf life and are cheap to manufacture). I think a problem being shown in is we are so many layers deep into processing it's confusing what is being discussed. I'd really try not to eat individually packaged ramen that's for sure, especially cup-o-soup style where you then add the layer of cooking in the cheapest container made for shipping and cost savings more than it's qualities as a safe cooking surface.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago

I guess I assumed people would consider ramen a highly processed food. USA instant ramen also often comes pre-fried. In the USA there's 'just soak in hot water' rice noodle packs though I normally use the soak in hot water mung bean noodles. Both of which would be considered highly processed.

theteapot 2y ago
Process doesn't sound much different to some other types of pasta and bread. So I guess bread and pasta are UPF too? I think I'm safe with my Ramen ... Main thing that worries me is unintended contamination from cooking process and packaging TBH.
- _DeadFred_ 2y ago
  It's considered processed when the bran and germ layers are removed and you are left consuming only a small part of the original foodstuff (with all the fiber and most nutrition removed). Most instant ramen is also fried, which then adds a lot of trans fats that would have never been part of historical food (trans fats are industrially created fats that taste really good but the main consideration for manufacturers is they have a long shelf life and are cheap to manufacture). I think a problem being shown in is we are so many layers deep into processing it's confusing what is being discussed. I'd really try not to eat individually packaged ramen that's for sure, especially cup-o-soup style where you then add the layer of cooking in the cheapest container made for shipping and cost savings more than it's qualities as a safe cooking surface.