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AI won't ever be able to teach math because AI cannot reason. It handles information very differently than humans do. It is at best a flawed oracle that may lie
by trod123 2y ago
AI won't ever be able to teach math because AI cannot reason. It handles information very differently than humans do. It is at best a flawed oracle that may lie through omission without you being able to tell.
This is supported by the fact that there are hard limits to computation, in terms of both Computability Theory, and Complexity Theory that are often disregarded by the novice and magical thinker alike despite being largely solved fields by experts in Computer Science, at least in terms of Computability Theory.
Most of this work was completed in the 1950s.
This is not a difficult a subject, but most people online simply are unwilling to do the work to rationally learn this and instead choose to try and hide their own ignorance because they feel inadequate, or perhaps they are engaging in something more malevolent. The reasoning (false justification) doesn't really matter.
It is, however; quite telling when expert's have validated these things, and yet any mention contrary to a narrative provokes downvotes in a public forum to remove it from view. A perfect example of intentional actions done by third-parties trying to misinform others about the risks (by those parties actions removing legitimate and valid information).
For those with the cajones to actually learn this stuff. Here is a link. It seems very jaron laden but it provides a true understanding of how computers actually work which is sorely lacking in the youth of today.
MIT 18.404J Theory of Computation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9syvZr-9xwk&list=PLUl4u3cNGP60_JNv2MmK3wkOt9syvfQWY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9syvZr-9xwk&list=PLUl4u3cNGP...
The only net benefit AI has towards society is towards destructive ends because there are far more destructive people whose efforts scale more in general when compared to the good people today. These people often do things which cannot be undone (salting the earth and burning the bridge).
Simply not having a sufficient background, or failing to perform basic due dilligence often will place most people in that destructive cohort regardless of their own personal beliefs.
Outcomes matter more than intentions, and the devil is always in the details.
A perfect example of this potential landmine of a field would be anything dealing with the underlying mechanisms involved in human to human communication.
There is an uncanny valley, and distorted reflected appraisal will occur inevitably in any human to AI interface seeking to mimic human communication.
Case studies from torture during the Korean Conflict (1950s) show that distorting reflected appraisal leads to either psychotic or dissociative behavior that progresses as exposure increases, it can permanently break people to the point where they cannot recover. Often, the first thing to go is rational thought.
Multiple experts cover this and confirm the findings (Lifton, Meerloo).
So what do you suppose will happen when AI distorts reflected appraisal (because it can't be tested sufficiently to the contrary) and its then used on the next generation of children? (who are inherently vulnerable to permanent change at that stage of development).
If as a result, they end up either killing themselves or others, or become people incapable of rational thought (which impulse control is correlated with), do you think they'll be alive or survive very long? What indicators would there be that this is happening (none, other than increasing chaotic violence)
Who do you think will be responsible for crippling them if that were to come to pass? Would any kind of justification ever be able to justify that outcome? Could we even recover from intentional crazy-making as a society? (likely not, insanity cannot be cured).
These things are not toys. Outcomes matter.
- hollerith 2y ago>The moment that any element has more than one underlying meaning the problem class exceeds what is capable by a computer (also known as a deterministic finite automata). This is complete bullshit, and computability theory has nothing to say about which (if any) cognitive tasks people can do that AI cannot.
- trod123 2y ago> This is complete bullshit That may be your belief, but it is not, and beliefs mean little in the face of reality. Saying the same thing in a more formalized way (so there can be no ambiguity), it is inherent in the 1:1 unique input to output relationship that is required for each state transition on a state graph, for the system's property of determinism to be preserved. No disrespect intended, but you don't seem to have actually taken or learned important parts regarding this subject matter. > computability theory has nothing to say about which (if any) cognitive tasks people can do that AI cannot. You are incorrect. The very first video in that linked coursework (from MIT) provides a counterexample to this statement. The professor clearly states this is impossible, and the proofs that come later in the class prove it. This statement is an over-generalization based in fallacy.
- hollerith 2y ago>you don't seem to have actually taken or learned important parts regarding this subject matter. If I hadn't mastered the concepts of computability and deterministic finite automata, I wouldn't've written what I did.
- trod123 2y agoI'd have responded sooner but YN stopped accepting submissions, sorry if they made you wait. We will have to disagree. I feel my position still stands correct on solid rational foundation, since you haven't provided any rational basis other than an appeal to authority, and there remain several unanswered contradictions in the supposition you made.
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