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I feel like you are assuming too much about people and it seems obvious that you are exaggerating your experiences with the lifted truck thing, so I think we sh

I feel like you are assuming too much about people and it seems obvious that you are exaggerating your experiences with the lifted truck thing, so I think we should just agree to disagree on the small differences in opinion we have. A SUV isn't much better for the environment and safety than a truck btw.

vel0city 2y ago
I feel like you haven't spent much time in a Southern city if you think trucks like the two example here are rare. I see them all the time. I'll see at least one every time I go out, normally I'll see multiple. I feel you assume too much about truck owners and apply your experiences in rural Michigan to all other truck owners. You think people like my examples of Frisco office workers having trucks are rare? You ever spend time in Frisco TX? Think they're all farmers on their zero lot line McMansions? Yet somehow practically every home has a truck out front, often multiple. That's just one town in the metroplex. And that's just the metroplex. We haven't even begun talking about Houston or San Antonio or Austin or even left Texas. Go take a look around Charles Schab's campus in Westlake. You'll find the parking there loaded with tons of big pickup trucks. How many farmers do you think Charles Schwab hires? Do the same with JPMorgan's new offices in Plano. I guess nearly a third of their workforce are farmers or plumbers or painters or something. > A SUV isn't much better for the environment and safety than a truck btw. Agreed. Which is why my midsize SUV stays in the driveway unless I actually need the space or towing while my family normally takes the much smaller other car that fits us just right. I fully agree people also often oversize their car purchase with massive SUVs that don't really do much more than what a midsize sedan could do with their usage.
- evantbyrne 2y ago
  Yeah, I haven't spent a ton of time in the deep South, so maybe you are right that the situation is worse than I realize. The local culture in Northern Michigan has some significant differences from other parts of America and it's possible I've forgotten some of the odd quirks of broader American culture since leaving Denver and Detroit. Good luck out there man.
  - vel0city 2y ago
    And just understand, I'm not arguing every truck owner is some insecure person making up for it by buying a massively oversized truck. I definitely agree there's lots of people out there that do use their trucks as trucks, even if not all the time. I bet it does make sense to have a truck or at least a competent crossover in rural Michigan. Lots of people I know who live up there do need some clearance and get a lot of value out of all wheel drive. But there are tons of people out there who are entirely office workers living in a suburban home or apartment who don't have boats or campers or whatever and own one or more trucks. Tons of them. You really notice the difference driving around in NY or Michigan or Illinois or whatever and then go to Texas or New Mexico or Georgia or similar. I just did a road trip from Texas to Montreal, so I got a decent snapshot of what highway populations look like across a lot of North America.

vel0city 2y ago

I feel like you haven't spent much time in a Southern city if you think trucks like the two example here are rare. I see them all the time. I'll see at least one every time I go out, normally I'll see multiple. I feel you assume too much about truck owners and apply your experiences in rural Michigan to all other truck owners. You think people like my examples of Frisco office workers having trucks are rare? You ever spend time in Frisco TX? Think they're all farmers on their zero lot line McMansions? Yet somehow practically every home has a truck out front, often multiple. That's just one town in the metroplex. And that's just the metroplex. We haven't even begun talking about Houston or San Antonio or Austin or even left Texas. Go take a look around Charles Schab's campus in Westlake. You'll find the parking there loaded with tons of big pickup trucks. How many farmers do you think Charles Schwab hires? Do the same with JPMorgan's new offices in Plano. I guess nearly a third of their workforce are farmers or plumbers or painters or something. > A SUV isn't much better for the environment and safety than a truck btw. Agreed. Which is why my midsize SUV stays in the driveway unless I actually need the space or towing while my family normally takes the much smaller other car that fits us just right. I fully agree people also often oversize their car purchase with massive SUVs that don't really do much more than what a midsize sedan could do with their usage.

evantbyrne 2y ago
Yeah, I haven't spent a ton of time in the deep South, so maybe you are right that the situation is worse than I realize. The local culture in Northern Michigan has some significant differences from other parts of America and it's possible I've forgotten some of the odd quirks of broader American culture since leaving Denver and Detroit. Good luck out there man.
- vel0city 2y ago
  And just understand, I'm not arguing every truck owner is some insecure person making up for it by buying a massively oversized truck. I definitely agree there's lots of people out there that do use their trucks as trucks, even if not all the time. I bet it does make sense to have a truck or at least a competent crossover in rural Michigan. Lots of people I know who live up there do need some clearance and get a lot of value out of all wheel drive. But there are tons of people out there who are entirely office workers living in a suburban home or apartment who don't have boats or campers or whatever and own one or more trucks. Tons of them. You really notice the difference driving around in NY or Michigan or Illinois or whatever and then go to Texas or New Mexico or Georgia or similar. I just did a road trip from Texas to Montreal, so I got a decent snapshot of what highway populations look like across a lot of North America.