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How many times will this same post be shared, each time with an incorrect/sensationalized title? Free teams already couldn't view history beyond 90 days, and t
by paxys 2y ago
How many times will this same post be shared, each time with an incorrect/sensationalized title?
Free teams already couldn't view history beyond 90 days, and that isn't changing.
Slack originally stored the history forever, but will now delete it after 1 year (not 90d as in the title).
This is actually a good development, because the next logical step from a large corporation's perspective would be to use this trove of user data for training LLMs or selling it to a third party (like Reddit, Stack Overflow etc. have done), and they can't do that now.
- htrp 2y ago>Slack originally stored the history forever, but will now delete it after 1 year. >This is actually a good development, because the next logical step from a large corporation's perspective would be to use this trove of user data for training LLMs or selling it to a third party (like Reddit, Stack Overflow etc. have done), and they can't do that now. Except you can envision a world where its no longer recoverable (for you) and also still available for LM training
- jv22222 2y agoAgree, there is no reason they can't keep the data. They likely will, probably just going to be a soft delete anyway. This is most likely driven by the sales team to squeeze a few more conversions.
- paxys 2y agoIs there a reason to believe that they are knowingly violating their ToS and privacy policies, lying in communication and using user data illegally?
- Detrytus 2y agoIsn't that what all the Silicon Valley companies are doing by default, until caught?
- bunderbunder 2y agoI'm trying to imagine what it must be like to believe that a company you're depending on, for a product that is either non-essential or has viable alternatives, is that untrustworthy, but still continue to rely on them for managing private communication.
- koito17 2y agoI'm not relying on Slack, I'm using Slack because my workplace forces me to use it. I still remember the days when Slack was little more than IRC with a coat of paint. You could actually connect to Slack via IRC clients, and that went away with the introduction of "Teams" around 2016. In any case, I would prefer company-internal tooling for company-internal communications over some SaaS any day. But I'm not the one in power to make these decisions. So over the years I've used Slack under the assumption everything I write on it will be data mined, sold, and now used for training LLMs.
- paxys 2y ago[flagged]
- dang 2y agoRecent and related: Slack updates retention policy for free workspaces - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40788323 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40788323 - June 2024 (71 comments)
- halJordan 2y agoThere are plenty of orgs with legally obligated retention that was satisfied via the "we can pay to get the messages if we need the messages" Now that that's going away, those orgs are being exposed to a legal liability and need to reconfigure.