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Your mother-in-law probably never uses bluetooth, video games, Adobe suite, etc.

by acchow 2y ago

alexjplant 2y ago
> bluetooth Has Just Worked (tm) on Fedora and Mint with the past three Thinkpads I've had, even with AirPods. > video games From what I understand Valve's efforts on Proton enable a plurality of modern games to run on Linux to the point that their flagship Steam Deck ships with a Debian-derived distro. > Adobe suite, etc. Niche creative software like high-end photo editing and DAWs are, admittedly, not well-supported on Linux and are the only reason that I keep a MacBook around. As you pointed out, however, the people that we're talking about don't have these needs. I've put Mint on multiple machines for friends and family and the only time I've had somebody ask me to use Windows instead is because their clapped-out 8-year-old Android phone with a half-broken USB-C jack had trouble keeping a stable mass storage connection to the machine. As long as a system has a browser and some semblance of an office suite 95% of people are good to go.
- haunter 2y ago
  > Debian-derived distro Arch Linux
  - alexjplant 2y ago
    Ah, thanks. For those who are still stuck in 2013 like me Wikipedia sayeth: > In February 2022, Valve released the Steam Deck gaming handheld, running a dramatically updated version of SteamOS, version 3.0, based on the Arch Linux distribution with the KDE Plasma environment
- SushiHippie 2y ago
  > that their flagship Steam Deck ships with a Debian-derived distro. It was once Debian based but since a few years they switched to Arch Linux. https://www.pcgamer.com/this-is-why-valve-is-switching-from-debian-to-arch-for-steam-decks-linux-os/ https://www.pcgamer.com/this-is-why-valve-is-switching-from-...
- squeaky-clean 2y ago
  I have a pair of Sony WH-1000XM4 and a Dell XPS with Ubuntu 22 that won't pair together. If I boot windows instead of Ubuntu it works.
- k310 2y ago
  You should have heard me last night yelling at a new mac and new phone within 3 feet of each other failing repeatedly to air drop. Sometimes it worked. Complete mystery. Regardless, I do all the photo editing I need with medium-strength tools all free, and I have great Nikon gear. I don't have the time to spend hours on each photo. "Damn Good" doesn't need much work! Browser and Libre Office work on Ubuntu for my former windows-shackled brother. Also Shotwell, IIRC. There was a computer "for seniors" once, and it had little more than browser and open office. Addressing the linked article, something that meets all your needs, and is relatively simple (who gets that nowadays?) is best. I mostly use a mac. Been doing so since the Steves were working from Welch Road. Also linux (Solaris and SunOS when they paid me to) from time to time. I looked at my enormous collection of adapters, cards and cables, and at my age, (relative) simplicity is a good thing.
  - fragmede 2y ago
    I've found shared copy and paste between iOS and MacOS to be more. convenient than airdrop for things that can handle that

Your mother-in-law probably never uses bluetooth, video games, Adobe suite, etc.

by acchow 2y ago

Your mother-in-law probably never uses bluetooth, video games, Adobe suite, etc.

> bluetooth Has Just Worked (tm) on Fedora and Mint with the past three Thinkpads I've had, even with AirPods. > video games From what I understand Valve's efforts on Proton enable a plurality of modern games to run on Linux to the point that their flagship Steam Deck ships with a Debian-derived distro. > Adobe suite, etc. Niche creative software like high-end photo editing and DAWs are, admittedly, not well-supported on Linux and are the only reason that I keep a MacBook around. As you pointed out, however, the people that we're talking about don't have these needs. I've put Mint on multiple machines for friends and family and the only time I've had somebody ask me to use Windows instead is because their clapped-out 8-year-old Android phone with a half-broken USB-C jack had trouble keeping a stable mass storage connection to the machine. As long as a system has a browser and some semblance of an office suite 95% of people are good to go.

haunter 2y ago
> Debian-derived distro Arch Linux
- alexjplant 2y ago
  Ah, thanks. For those who are still stuck in 2013 like me Wikipedia sayeth: > In February 2022, Valve released the Steam Deck gaming handheld, running a dramatically updated version of SteamOS, version 3.0, based on the Arch Linux distribution with the KDE Plasma environment
SushiHippie 2y ago
> that their flagship Steam Deck ships with a Debian-derived distro. It was once Debian based but since a few years they switched to Arch Linux. https://www.pcgamer.com/this-is-why-valve-is-switching-from-debian-to-arch-for-steam-decks-linux-os/ https://www.pcgamer.com/this-is-why-valve-is-switching-from-...
squeaky-clean 2y ago
I have a pair of Sony WH-1000XM4 and a Dell XPS with Ubuntu 22 that won't pair together. If I boot windows instead of Ubuntu it works.
k310 2y ago
You should have heard me last night yelling at a new mac and new phone within 3 feet of each other failing repeatedly to air drop. Sometimes it worked. Complete mystery. Regardless, I do all the photo editing I need with medium-strength tools all free, and I have great Nikon gear. I don't have the time to spend hours on each photo. "Damn Good" doesn't need much work! Browser and Libre Office work on Ubuntu for my former windows-shackled brother. Also Shotwell, IIRC. There was a computer "for seniors" once, and it had little more than browser and open office. Addressing the linked article, something that meets all your needs, and is relatively simple (who gets that nowadays?) is best. I mostly use a mac. Been doing so since the Steves were working from Welch Road. Also linux (Solaris and SunOS when they paid me to) from time to time. I looked at my enormous collection of adapters, cards and cables, and at my age, (relative) simplicity is a good thing.
- fragmede 2y ago
  I've found shared copy and paste between iOS and MacOS to be more. convenient than airdrop for things that can handle that