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Individual experiences may vary. I live in Northern Michigan where people are frequently towing things related to summer activities. If you live in a city or a

Individual experiences may vary. I live in Northern Michigan where people are frequently towing things related to summer activities. If you live in a city or a rural community where people can't even afford to have things to tow, then you might not see it as much. People who work on farms or do construction may also use their trucks a lot but not necessarily a lot of heavy towing.

vel0city 2y ago
You seriously do think that most truck owners own boats or campers or bought them because they do construction or farm work or are just too poor to buy a boat at the moment huh? Go walk around in Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Phoenix, Albuquerque, Oklahoma City, Atlanta, St Lous, Denver, Kansas City, or loads of other cities like that. Prepare to have your eyes opened to excessive truck culture. Go see all the pavement princesses modified to excessive levels that make them impractical for towing or doing farm or construction work. Compare the trucks actually used for work compared to their pristine fancy paint jobs and spotless beds and geometry that would cause the suspension to snap if you tried pulling even a couple thousand pounds behind it. According to some surveys something like 63% of truck drivers tow rarely to never. https://www.axios.com/ford-pickup-trucks-history https://www.axios.com/ford-pickup-trucks-history Easily half of the trucks on the road today will never have towed anything in their lives. And chances are a lot will see payloads in their beds that would have comfortably fit in a minivan or hatchback. I don't mind someone driving a big truck if its actually something they use as a truck. I'm contemplating getting a truck and camper trailer eventually myself. I get annoyed seeing all the wastefulness of all these trucks that aren't used as trucks. That wastefulness does affect me. It makes the air I breathe worse, it makes the streets my children play around less safe, it makes the parking situation worse, it makes traffic worse, it makes everything worse for zero damn reason other than "truck culture".
- evantbyrne 2y ago
  I grew up shoveling manure out of the back of a truck. It's called washing your car. Maybe someday we'll get a proper survey that doesn't mix infrequent use with never and learn something closer to the truth. I suspect usage is contextual in predictable ways.
  - vel0city 2y ago
    I see many trucks like this drive around on the highways near me every night. Think they're shoveling manure out of something like this? Think they're towing much with a vehicle like that? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/27/b6/3d/27b63db4bd163bc3b1f417e82df05846.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/27/b6/3d/27b63db4bd163bc3b1f4... You know its a work truck when they have painted light-up rims. https://live.staticflickr.com/1972/45705140252_d81ef13ce7.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/1972/45705140252_d81ef13ce7.jp... I'm sure that finance worker in Downtown Dallas going back to their quarter acre lot in Frisco sure shovels a ton of manure. I bet that software developer in Austin going back to his apartment spends a lot of time towing a horse trailer. Seriously man. Leave the rural bubble for a bit and see what its like in a Southern US city. See all the trucks owned by people parking in cramped downtown parking garages. See all the office parking garages filled to the brim with excessive trucks. Then tell me they're mostly used by people working in trades with a straight face.
    - evantbyrne 2y ago
      I feel like you are assuming too much about people and it seems obvious that you are exaggerating your experiences with the lifted truck thing, so I think we should just agree to disagree on the small differences in opinion we have. A SUV isn't much better for the environment and safety than a truck btw.
      - vel0city 2y ago
        I feel like you haven't spent much time in a Southern city if you think trucks like the two example here are rare. I see them all the time. I'll see at least one every time I go out, normally I'll see multiple. I feel you assume too much about truck owners and apply your experiences in rural Michigan to all other truck owners. You think people like my examples of Frisco office workers having trucks are rare? You ever spend time in Frisco TX? Think they're all farmers on their zero lot line McMansions? Yet somehow practically every home has a truck out front, often multiple. That's just one town in the metroplex. And that's just the metroplex. We haven't even begun talking about Houston or San Antonio or Austin or even left Texas. Go take a look around Charles Schab's campus in Westlake. You'll find the parking there loaded with tons of big pickup trucks. How many farmers do you think Charles Schwab hires? Do the same with JPMorgan's new offices in Plano. I guess nearly a third of their workforce are farmers or plumbers or painters or something. > A SUV isn't much better for the environment and safety than a truck btw. Agreed. Which is why my midsize SUV stays in the driveway unless I actually need the space or towing while my family normally takes the much smaller other car that fits us just right. I fully agree people also often oversize their car purchase with massive SUVs that don't really do much more than what a midsize sedan could do with their usage.

vel0city 2y ago

You seriously do think that most truck owners own boats or campers or bought them because they do construction or farm work or are just too poor to buy a boat at the moment huh? Go walk around in Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Phoenix, Albuquerque, Oklahoma City, Atlanta, St Lous, Denver, Kansas City, or loads of other cities like that. Prepare to have your eyes opened to excessive truck culture. Go see all the pavement princesses modified to excessive levels that make them impractical for towing or doing farm or construction work. Compare the trucks actually used for work compared to their pristine fancy paint jobs and spotless beds and geometry that would cause the suspension to snap if you tried pulling even a couple thousand pounds behind it. According to some surveys something like 63% of truck drivers tow rarely to never. https://www.axios.com/ford-pickup-trucks-history https://www.axios.com/ford-pickup-trucks-history Easily half of the trucks on the road today will never have towed anything in their lives. And chances are a lot will see payloads in their beds that would have comfortably fit in a minivan or hatchback. I don't mind someone driving a big truck if its actually something they use as a truck. I'm contemplating getting a truck and camper trailer eventually myself. I get annoyed seeing all the wastefulness of all these trucks that aren't used as trucks. That wastefulness does affect me. It makes the air I breathe worse, it makes the streets my children play around less safe, it makes the parking situation worse, it makes traffic worse, it makes everything worse for zero damn reason other than "truck culture".

evantbyrne 2y ago
I grew up shoveling manure out of the back of a truck. It's called washing your car. Maybe someday we'll get a proper survey that doesn't mix infrequent use with never and learn something closer to the truth. I suspect usage is contextual in predictable ways.
- vel0city 2y ago
  I see many trucks like this drive around on the highways near me every night. Think they're shoveling manure out of something like this? Think they're towing much with a vehicle like that? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/27/b6/3d/27b63db4bd163bc3b1f417e82df05846.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/27/b6/3d/27b63db4bd163bc3b1f4... You know its a work truck when they have painted light-up rims. https://live.staticflickr.com/1972/45705140252_d81ef13ce7.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/1972/45705140252_d81ef13ce7.jp... I'm sure that finance worker in Downtown Dallas going back to their quarter acre lot in Frisco sure shovels a ton of manure. I bet that software developer in Austin going back to his apartment spends a lot of time towing a horse trailer. Seriously man. Leave the rural bubble for a bit and see what its like in a Southern US city. See all the trucks owned by people parking in cramped downtown parking garages. See all the office parking garages filled to the brim with excessive trucks. Then tell me they're mostly used by people working in trades with a straight face.
  - evantbyrne 2y ago
    I feel like you are assuming too much about people and it seems obvious that you are exaggerating your experiences with the lifted truck thing, so I think we should just agree to disagree on the small differences in opinion we have. A SUV isn't much better for the environment and safety than a truck btw.
    - vel0city 2y ago
      I feel like you haven't spent much time in a Southern city if you think trucks like the two example here are rare. I see them all the time. I'll see at least one every time I go out, normally I'll see multiple. I feel you assume too much about truck owners and apply your experiences in rural Michigan to all other truck owners. You think people like my examples of Frisco office workers having trucks are rare? You ever spend time in Frisco TX? Think they're all farmers on their zero lot line McMansions? Yet somehow practically every home has a truck out front, often multiple. That's just one town in the metroplex. And that's just the metroplex. We haven't even begun talking about Houston or San Antonio or Austin or even left Texas. Go take a look around Charles Schab's campus in Westlake. You'll find the parking there loaded with tons of big pickup trucks. How many farmers do you think Charles Schwab hires? Do the same with JPMorgan's new offices in Plano. I guess nearly a third of their workforce are farmers or plumbers or painters or something. > A SUV isn't much better for the environment and safety than a truck btw. Agreed. Which is why my midsize SUV stays in the driveway unless I actually need the space or towing while my family normally takes the much smaller other car that fits us just right. I fully agree people also often oversize their car purchase with massive SUVs that don't really do much more than what a midsize sedan could do with their usage.