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There will be people like Sacklers until we start putting them away and throwing away the key. We do need to put rich people in jail at least every now and agai
by ein0p 2y ago
There will be people like Sacklers until we start putting them away and throwing away the key. We do need to put rich people in jail at least every now and again, if for no other reason than to demonstrate we're not a banana republic.
- chasil 2y agoUnfortunately, this is no longer possible to a great extent. "Purdue flourished under brothers Mortimer and Raymond Sackler, who died in 2010 and 2017, respectively."
- ein0p 2y agoI’m sure it was a lot more than just two people
- nickff 2y ago>"We do need to put rich people in jail at least every now and again, if for no other reason than to demonstrate we're not a banana republic." And to that end, the USA must demonstrate that it's totalitarian and abuses people's rights?
- mcmcmc 2y agoIs rule of law totalitarian? Wealth is not be a get out of jail free card, and imprisonment is not inherently an abuse of rights. While the US prison industrial complex is vile and abusive, the cushy white collar prisons aren’t where those abuses are happening.
- squidbeak 2y agoI think the poster means those rich who have committed offences, but enjoy softer penalities thanks to their wealth.
- notoriousdel 2y ago[flagged]
- mulmen 2y agoThere’s a big difference between: > We should put rich people in jail to prove we can. And > We should put guilty people in jail even if they are rich.
- dang 2y ago"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." (squidbeak's reply is a nice example of following this guideline - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40812196 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40812196) https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- 1024core 2y agoUnfortunately, vermin like the Sacklers have access to top lawyers. The two founding brothers are dead, so you won't be able to put them away; they are already put away, permanently. However, their despicable offspring managed to flee the country with their ill-gotten gains; good luck finding them now. My biggest beef with this case has been that people should not be allowed to just "buy" themselves out of jail. The US does not have a concept of "blood money" in its legal code (at least, not yet anyways). This agreement amounted to blood money, practically. Blood money != justice.
- oezi 2y agoThree brothers! The dynasty origin and eldest brother is Arthur Sackler.
- legitster 2y ago> We do need to put rich people in jail at least every now and again, if for no other reason than to demonstrate we're not a banana republic. ... you do know that banana republics did this exact thing all of the time?
- EnergyAmy 2y agoI suspect you misinterpreted what they said. We should be putting guilty people in jail, even if they're rich and powerful.
- legitster 2y ago[flagged]
- richbell 2y ago> I know of no other way to read this other than lock away people because they are rich whether they are guilty or not. Is there a reason you omitted the first sentence from that quote?
- ein0p 2y agoAre you a part of the Sackler family? Otherwise I don’t see how you could have misinterpreted what I said. Tell me, how many rich people went to jail for the fraud that caused the 2008 financial crisis? See what I mean now?
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- lupusreal 2y ago[flagged]
- ein0p 2y agoThey’ve knowingly killed a ton of people. That’s not a “political point”, and it’s really well established
- dang 2y agoWe detached this from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40811921 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40811921. It's best to avoid generic tangents in HN threads, especially generic flamewar tangents. They tend to make discussion more repetitive and therefore more tedious and eventually more nasty. This particular one has been repeated hundreds if not thousands of times in the past.