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Can we please drop the sappy self promotion of "financial and entertainment capital of the world" and get real i.e. the old but good side of American empiricism
by scrubs 2y ago
Can we please drop the sappy self promotion of "financial and entertainment capital of the world" and get real i.e. the old but good side of American empiricism? Thanks.
Articles mentioning the plain incompetence of America's civil engineering projects always hit me hard. It's so bad. You'd think with the number of MBAs we graduate or time we'd get our act together. But no.
The Gothamist article runs the same old story trajectory here: a bad example, then drilling a bit closer to root cause, then pointing people know the current situation sucks and why, ending with a time will tell or variation on same. It's underwhelming.
Another example: 108th street in queens has been ripped up, some plumbing or electrical work done, then repaved about once every 1-3 months for the last 10 years.
I also fairly familiar with nyc subways and how it's run day to day. It's embarrassing ... it's 10 parallel universes from European standards.
Escalators are slow, and down a lot. More money is spent I feel sure telling you what isn't working, and what all the schedule changes are, than what the normal schedule is.
This is a 6 train running on the 4 line ... this is a F train running on the E line ... is often heard.
Then there's moms -- what I call them -- ladies usually on bullhorns telling you how to get off the subway and which escalator to use. That's their job: yack into a bull horn and tell you the stunning obvious.
Another unsightly subway aspect: temporary closures of platforms. Some moron uses plastic tape in the most unsightly way to cordon off access ... it's straight out of a slum. A temporary gate, or better yet, using electronic signage to redirect people would be better and a damn sight look better.
- woodruffw 2y agoIt wasn't intended as a promotion, more of a "we can't drop everything and start a new city; there's a lot of stuff here." I don't think we disagree materially about the city's general lack of coordination (or demonstrated incompetence) with respect to construction. But the example in the article is a pretty bad example, all things considered. (I'll note, however, that the comparison between NYC and European metro areas is typically faulty, for reasons that you probably already know: the Subway runs 24/7, is pathetically underfunded relative to its size, and hasn't benefited - perversely - from a reconstruction period following a global war. European metros tend to have all of these things going for them, in addition to better and less incompetent governance.)
- scrubs 2y agoGotcha - let's meet in the middle. As I was writing orig comment I knew euro spends way more on trains; maybe Europeans think their stuff darn well be better. So point taken. I think we're pretty much on the same page as you write.