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Thank you. For my purpose as a reader it is editorial incompetence that the article neither provided that link, nor the name of the case to make it easy to look

Thank you. For my purpose as a reader it is editorial incompetence that the article neither provided that link, nor the name of the case to make it easy to lookup.

duxup 2y ago
For SCOTUS related news I always hit up SCOTUSblog: https://www.scotusblog.com/ https://www.scotusblog.com/ They do a good job of linking to or posting quality articles.
jcranmer 2y ago
At least it is for SCOTUS decisions to find the decision quickly (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/slipopinion/23 https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/slipopinion/23 has a list of all opinions from the current time, updated live as they are announced). It's really painful when you've got coverage of state court cases where you have neither the case name nor the court it was filed in nor the docket nor any document nor anything that would let you figure any of this out.
- duxup 2y ago
  Yeah SCOTUS is pretty good about putting their decisions out there. Sometimes too good at it ;)
- fock 2y ago
  as a non US-person who recently wanted to look at some cases: is there a free way to do this? Or do you have to sign up to the weird ePACER?
  - nickburns 2y ago
    You do not have to sign up for anything. SCOTUS opinions are freely-accessible public record.[0] [0] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/opinions.aspx https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/opinions.aspx
  - jcranmer 2y ago
    Every document at SCOTUS level is freely available, although you have to know the docket number to get all of the briefs correctly. SCOTUSblog in practice is a more accessible interface to the docket, since you can easily look up by case name: https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/terms/ot2023/ https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/terms/ot2023/, e.g., the full docket for the case in this article is here: https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/harrington-v-purdue-pharma-l-p/ https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/harrington-v-pur... If you want to deal with non-SCOTUS federal cases, your choices are to use PACER or to use RECAP (https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/ https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/), where the documents may be available. E.g., the appeals court docket for this case is at https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67448481/in-re-purdue-pharma-lp/ https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67448481/in-re-purdue-p..., note that many documents aren't available because no one made it free via RECAP. If you want to deal with state courts... good luck! Every state has a different system with different level of pains to track down.
squigz 2y ago
This is why I so often just go to the AP and look for their article - https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-purdue-pharma-opioid-crisis-bankruptcy-9859e83721f74f726ec16b6e07101c7c https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-purdue-pharma-opioi...
dboreham 2y ago
Deliberate. Someone makes more money as a result.
robxorb 2y ago
This is my gripe with regular news. Science paper? No link. New law bill? No link. Someone made an hour-long speech? 30 second cut, no link to the full speech. Is it almost as if they'd rather we didn't see their sources?
- heyoni 2y ago
  All of those things take you away from their platforms. They don't want you to leave, period.
dustincoates 2y ago
A more cynical take is that it isn't editorial incompetence, it's an editorial decision. Once you notice it, it's hard not to notice how often you aren't given the sources or ways to further confirm stories, especially those that might be controversial.
dang 2y ago
(We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40811187 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40811187.)

Thank you. For my purpose as a reader it is editorial incompetence that the article neither provided that link, nor the name of the case to make it easy to lookup.

duxup 2y ago

For SCOTUS related news I always hit up SCOTUSblog: https://www.scotusblog.com/ https://www.scotusblog.com/ They do a good job of linking to or posting quality articles.

jcranmer 2y ago

At least it is for SCOTUS decisions to find the decision quickly (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/slipopinion/23 https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/slipopinion/23 has a list of all opinions from the current time, updated live as they are announced). It's really painful when you've got coverage of state court cases where you have neither the case name nor the court it was filed in nor the docket nor any document nor anything that would let you figure any of this out.

duxup 2y ago
Yeah SCOTUS is pretty good about putting their decisions out there. Sometimes too good at it ;)
fock 2y ago
as a non US-person who recently wanted to look at some cases: is there a free way to do this? Or do you have to sign up to the weird ePACER?
- nickburns 2y ago
  You do not have to sign up for anything. SCOTUS opinions are freely-accessible public record.[0] [0] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/opinions.aspx https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/opinions.aspx
- jcranmer 2y ago
  Every document at SCOTUS level is freely available, although you have to know the docket number to get all of the briefs correctly. SCOTUSblog in practice is a more accessible interface to the docket, since you can easily look up by case name: https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/terms/ot2023/ https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/terms/ot2023/, e.g., the full docket for the case in this article is here: https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/harrington-v-purdue-pharma-l-p/ https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/harrington-v-pur... If you want to deal with non-SCOTUS federal cases, your choices are to use PACER or to use RECAP (https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/ https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/), where the documents may be available. E.g., the appeals court docket for this case is at https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67448481/in-re-purdue-pharma-lp/ https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67448481/in-re-purdue-p..., note that many documents aren't available because no one made it free via RECAP. If you want to deal with state courts... good luck! Every state has a different system with different level of pains to track down.

squigz 2y ago

This is why I so often just go to the AP and look for their article - https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-purdue-pharma-opioid-crisis-bankruptcy-9859e83721f74f726ec16b6e07101c7c https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-purdue-pharma-opioi...

dboreham 2y ago

Deliberate. Someone makes more money as a result.

robxorb 2y ago

This is my gripe with regular news. Science paper? No link. New law bill? No link. Someone made an hour-long speech? 30 second cut, no link to the full speech. Is it almost as if they'd rather we didn't see their sources?

heyoni 2y ago
All of those things take you away from their platforms. They don't want you to leave, period.

dustincoates 2y ago

A more cynical take is that it isn't editorial incompetence, it's an editorial decision. Once you notice it, it's hard not to notice how often you aren't given the sources or ways to further confirm stories, especially those that might be controversial.

dang 2y ago

(We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40811187 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40811187.)