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Even if what you're saying is true (and I grew up with dudes like you're describing) it's extremely important that those folks get due process. If we (the non-
by carapace 2y ago
Even if what you're saying is true (and I grew up with dudes like you're describing) it's extremely important that those folks get due process. If we (the non-criminals) don't hold up the ideals of civilization then we lose the right to perform "justice" on these offenders, eh? I've heard dudes say, "the cops are just another gang", due process is how we make that not true.
Further, a lot of the people who can't control themselves are /also/ victims: lead in the water and air, moms who took drugs during pregnancy (the most out-of-control kid I knew back in the day was a "crack baby", he was neurologically damaged before he was born.)
Whippings and forced farm labor (you realize you're describing slavery?) are not a solution to criminality.
- tiahura 2y agopeople who can't control themselves are /also/ victims: We tried that approach for the last 60 years. Sit through a docket to witness for yourself its efficacy.
- FireBeyond 2y agoCorporal and capital punishment don't reduce crime. All they do is give people - often people who have no involvement or had no impact from the crime - the feeling of vengeance. Except it's the criminal justice system, not the criminal vengeance system.
- carapace 2y ago> We tried that approach for the last 60 years. Have we really? I'm no expert, I'm asking. In any event, two wrongs don't make a right. The kind of vindictive punishment you advocate is itself wrong. Let's look at systems that have managed to lower rates of recidivism?