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What I think a lot of the comments are missing here is that many companies who use Figma are already using Figma to create and present slide decks. (The company

by npilk 2y ago

What I think a lot of the comments are missing here is that many companies who use Figma are already using Figma to create and present slide decks. (The company I work for is a perfect example.) It's maybe not the intended use of their software, but it's a very popular one. So the competitive angle here isn't stealing market share from Google Slides/PPT, or trying to get new users to pick this over other web presentation tools. It's adding this as a first-class use case for people already building slides in Figma to further ingrain the 'ecosystem'.

CaveTech 2y ago
This doesn't really make sense, there would not be ROI to cater to a market of users who are choosing to already use the product for that use case when it's not supported. They _are_ ingrained in the ecosystem. It is pretty clearly targeted at making this more mainstream and mass-market.
- filleduchaos 2y ago
  I'm no product manager, but how on earth does it not make sense to elevate a use case that people clearly want from ad-hoc solution to actual feature?
- mitemte 2y ago
  I’ve haven’t worked at a company where Figma is used “correctly”. It’s mostly used as a canvas to dump designs, slideshows, flowcharts and diagrams. For example, N/Shift+N moves forward/backward a frame. I’m yet to see a Figma file where frames are correctly ordered or laid out, rendering this feature almost useless.
  - npilk 2y ago
    FYI - there are plugins that can help you easily order your frames by position or in other ways that make sense (I think the one I use is called Sorter). But that's another example of the sort of hacky 'workaround' that should have first-class support if enough people need it.
    - mitemte 2y ago
      Ah interesting. I only have a viewer account, so I imagine I wouldn’t be able to use such a plugin.
- ryanmcbride 2y ago
  If you don't see how "Our users are using our tool for X, let's make that easier for them" adds value then remind me to never work for you.
- JCharante 2y ago
  When you have a thousand engineers who cares about ROI anymore? It's how Google got to be Google. By building cool stuff and letting other teams pay the bills

by npilk 2y ago

CaveTech 2y ago

This doesn't really make sense, there would not be ROI to cater to a market of users who are choosing to already use the product for that use case when it's not supported. They _are_ ingrained in the ecosystem. It is pretty clearly targeted at making this more mainstream and mass-market.

filleduchaos 2y ago
I'm no product manager, but how on earth does it not make sense to elevate a use case that people clearly want from ad-hoc solution to actual feature?
mitemte 2y ago
I’ve haven’t worked at a company where Figma is used “correctly”. It’s mostly used as a canvas to dump designs, slideshows, flowcharts and diagrams. For example, N/Shift+N moves forward/backward a frame. I’m yet to see a Figma file where frames are correctly ordered or laid out, rendering this feature almost useless.
- npilk 2y ago
  FYI - there are plugins that can help you easily order your frames by position or in other ways that make sense (I think the one I use is called Sorter). But that's another example of the sort of hacky 'workaround' that should have first-class support if enough people need it.
  - mitemte 2y ago
    Ah interesting. I only have a viewer account, so I imagine I wouldn’t be able to use such a plugin.
ryanmcbride 2y ago
If you don't see how "Our users are using our tool for X, let's make that easier for them" adds value then remind me to never work for you.
JCharante 2y ago
When you have a thousand engineers who cares about ROI anymore? It's how Google got to be Google. By building cool stuff and letting other teams pay the bills