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> You have a choice between being offensive and being ignored. The author of "The No Asshole Rule" explains the incentive to be an asshole and succumbs to it i

> You have a choice between being offensive and being ignored. The author of "The No Asshole Rule" explains the incentive to be an asshole and succumbs to it in the title to get more attention.

Nevermark 2y ago
Using a lightly culturally offensive word, I.e. a rude word aimed at nobody, or at a group defined by the harm they cause, is not the same as using a serious socially offensive word, I.e. an abusive word aimed at, or including, innocent people. Such as “[insert deeply disrespectful term associated with systematic denegration, unfair treatment, hate or violence aimed at any group that includes people innocent of causing some systematic intentional harm to others]”. “Enshitification” is another rude word not aimed at anyone innocent, but whose unpleasantness memorably represents dramatically repellant and even harmful behavior.
- Bluestein 2y ago
  (And, unfortunately, if I could - "enshitification" - a rather relevant concept nowadays ...)
- mikrl 2y ago
  I think enshittification is removed enough from its root word to be acceptable. I’ve heard it said matter-of-fact-ly on podcasts which otherwise avoid blue language.
squircle 2y ago
Well, there is being an asshole when immediately being understood is critical/important (i.e., we're cooking here, skip the niceties--I think this actually increases trust and honest communication) and then there is being an asshole because you're a cranky old fart who doesn't know any other way to communicate and/or enjoys exploiting others by making them uncomfortable.
- Bluestein 2y ago
  This distinction, in fact, is made by the author by way of "temporary" and (so called) "certified" practitioners ...
Bluestein 2y ago
Actually, the qualifications for Assholehood are very well defined, as - I guess - is part of the point. To wit: ""Their unpleasant behaviors were catalogued by Sutton as The Dirty Dozen:[9] Insults Personal space violation Unsolicited touching Threats Sarcasm Flames Humiliation Shaming Interruption Backbiting Glaring Snubbing
- esperent 2y ago
  Flames?
  - Bluestein 2y ago
    (Apparently ...)

> You have a choice between being offensive and being ignored. The author of "The No Asshole Rule" explains the incentive to be an asshole and succumbs to it in the title to get more attention.

Nevermark 2y ago

Using a lightly culturally offensive word, I.e. a rude word aimed at nobody, or at a group defined by the harm they cause, is not the same as using a serious socially offensive word, I.e. an abusive word aimed at, or including, innocent people. Such as “[insert deeply disrespectful term associated with systematic denegration, unfair treatment, hate or violence aimed at any group that includes people innocent of causing some systematic intentional harm to others]”. “Enshitification” is another rude word not aimed at anyone innocent, but whose unpleasantness memorably represents dramatically repellant and even harmful behavior.

Bluestein 2y ago
(And, unfortunately, if I could - "enshitification" - a rather relevant concept nowadays ...)
mikrl 2y ago
I think enshittification is removed enough from its root word to be acceptable. I’ve heard it said matter-of-fact-ly on podcasts which otherwise avoid blue language.

squircle 2y ago

Well, there is being an asshole when immediately being understood is critical/important (i.e., we're cooking here, skip the niceties--I think this actually increases trust and honest communication) and then there is being an asshole because you're a cranky old fart who doesn't know any other way to communicate and/or enjoys exploiting others by making them uncomfortable.

Bluestein 2y ago
This distinction, in fact, is made by the author by way of "temporary" and (so called) "certified" practitioners ...

Bluestein 2y ago

Actually, the qualifications for Assholehood are very well defined, as - I guess - is part of the point. To wit: ""Their unpleasant behaviors were catalogued by Sutton as The Dirty Dozen:[9] Insults Personal space violation Unsolicited touching Threats Sarcasm Flames Humiliation Shaming Interruption Backbiting Glaring Snubbing

esperent 2y ago
Flames?
- Bluestein 2y ago
  (Apparently ...)