See, FB gets away with it because everyone mostly forgets. 2016 Audio: they listened to what you did through your microphone until they got caught https://www

See, FB gets away with it because everyone mostly forgets. 2016 Audio: they listened to what you did through your microphone until they got caught https://www.nbc4i.com/news/spying-secrets-is-facebook-eavesdropping-on-your-phone-conversations/ https://www.nbc4i.com/news/spying-secrets-is-facebook-eavesd... 2019: Facebook caught activating camera without permission, to spy on you https://www.pcmag.com/news/facebook-app-caught-activating-phone-camera-without-permission https://www.pcmag.com/news/facebook-app-caught-activating-ph... 2020: Facebook a year later still secretly using your camera to spy on you, this time through Instagram https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24514433 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24514433 This is the company you are now trusting with the mere claim that WhatsApp is end-to-end secured. 2018: Facebook, not satisfied with getting its own users’ data only, bought and hijacked a VPN app in order to — wait for it — bypass encryption that millions of people trusted for ALL SITES ON THE INTERNET in order to analyze traffic and be able to get the dirt on its competitors! https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/facebook-violates-apples-data-gathering-rules-pulls-vpn-from-app-store/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/facebook-violate... Now about WhatsApp… Oh yeah… it’s already sending a lot of telemetry to Facebook: https://www.wired.com/story/whatsapp-instagram-facebook-data/ https://www.wired.com/story/whatsapp-instagram-facebook-data... And has been since 2016: https://www.wired.com/story/whatsapp-facebook-data-share-notification/ https://www.wired.com/story/whatsapp-facebook-data-share-not... Oh, but at least the content of your messages is not analyzed by FB? Well, as far as we know that might be true, but if the other user flags your convo, it is in fact sent to Facebook: https://www.propublica.org/article/how-facebook-undermines-privacy-protections-for-its-2-billion-whatsapp-users https://www.propublica.org/article/how-facebook-undermines-p... But wait, there’s more. Sometimes the mask slips due to People You May Know, which is the carefully guarded mix of “secret” algorithms that has helped Facebook aggressively grow beyond 100 million people: https://medium.com/hackernoon/facebook-is-reading-my-encrypted-whatsapp-conversations-375d2eba0c18 https://medium.com/hackernoon/facebook-is-reading-my-encrypt... https://gizmodo.com/people-you-may-know-a-controversial-facebook-features-1827981959 https://gizmodo.com/people-you-may-know-a-controversial-face... Mark Z knows what’s up: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/22/mark-zuckerberg-tape-webcam-microphone-facebook https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/22/mark-zuck... https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/17/facebook-people-first-ever-mark-zuckerberg-harvard https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/17/facebook-... Telegram has NEVER tried to do any of these types of things. So, given a choice, would I trust Zuck and co, or a guy who literally had to flee Russia because at great personal cost he had refused disclose the identities of the Maidan protestors, and losing his company to their Mail.ru conglomerate? https://www.forbes.com/profile/pavel-durov/ https://www.forbes.com/profile/pavel-durov/ https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Pavel-Durov-so-careless-in-his-selection-of-investors-for-Telegram/answer/Mary-Ginsburg-6 https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Pavel-Durov-so-careless-in-his... https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/europe/pavel-durov-telegram-encryption/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/europe/pavel-durov-telegram-e... The answer is: neither (although Pavel Durov is like 1000x more trustworthy in my opinion). https://itc.ua/en/news/durov-boasts-that-telegram-employs-about-30-engineers-security-experts-call-this-a-red-flag-for-users/ https://itc.ua/en/news/durov-boasts-that-telegram-employs-ab... I prefer open source software https://community.intercoin.app/t/web3-moxie-signal-telegram-and-why-decentralization-matters/2230 https://community.intercoin.app/t/web3-moxie-signal-telegram... And here’s why: https://community.qbix.com/t/the-global-war-on-end-to-end-encryption/214 https://community.qbix.com/t/the-global-war-on-end-to-end-en...