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Nothing about the quote is related to gainful employment or monetary transaction. It is entirely about the prospect of technology serving people by freeing the
by zdragnar 2y ago
Nothing about the quote is related to gainful employment or monetary transaction.
It is entirely about the prospect of technology serving people by freeing their time from chores to pursue luxury activities. Instead of that expectation, the reality of technological advancement that AI has given us so far has been to do those pursuits of pleasure for us, while we still have to do mundane, unfulfilling chores in our daily lives.
It's purely a tongue-in-cheek quip about our daily lives. It follows the standard formula for pretty much all one-liners jokes. Some technology- vacuum cleaners, dishwashers, laundry machines- eliminated many hours of work. Instead of advancing this kind of benefit for people, the technology took the benefit for itself.
Setup, juxtaposed by punchline.
- roenxi 2y agoSomething can be a joke and still be worth taking seriously. In this case, the joke is misleading on an important topic - the existence of AI changes economic realities but has no bearing on how humans spend their leisure time, or how much of that leisure time they have. In fact, it probably will increase the amount of leisure time available on net since it is freeing us up as a species from needing to do a bunch of artistic and creative chores.
- disqard 2y ago> "freeing us up as a species from needing to do a bunch of artistic and creative chores." Would you please clarify something? You're saying that we need to be freed from "artistic and creative chores" -- so that we can be free to do what? For me personally, the highest-quality leisure I can think of is to follow creative pursuits and hone my artistic abilities (e.g. playing a musical instrument, making something with my hands, etc.)
- roenxi 2y agoFree to do whatever you like. If you want to sit around playing musical instruments in your spare time nothing is stopping you. We've had superhuman chess AI for decades and that hasn't stopped anyone playing chess. But if I want to review a game showcasing the highest level of chess play I wouldn't turn to human games. Similarly, sooner or later, if I want a specific picture of something I'm not going to be wasting the time of an artist to get it.
- mdhb 2y agoThis is such a genuinely weird worldview to me. Like you’re missing a huge and meaningful chunk of one of the best parts of humanity.
- roenxi 2y agoI'm talking about work. There are people who enjoy their work, but they are rather rare. Work is a "huge and meaningful chunk" of our lives, but frankly it'd be a better world if it wasn't.
- mdhb 2y agoYou sure seemed to be talking about your spare time a moment ago.
- roenxi 2y agoThe part where I said "Free to do whatever you like. If you want to sit around playing musical instruments in your spare time nothing is stopping you."? I was clarifying that I wasn't talking about leisure time. And how do you think that attitude is limiting anyone? It seems fairly open to me.
- rrr_oh_man 2y ago> In fact, it probably will increase the amount of leisure time available on net since it is freeing us up as a species from needing to do a bunch of artistic and creative chores. Historically, that has just been not true.
- bratbag 2y agoIf art is your job, then art is a chore. For people who do art just for fun, AI is a net positive. That's why employment is relevant to the quip.