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Like most things, it would greatly benefit from severe punishments for rulebreaking. Sadly, that won’t happen, since as a society we seem to be afraid of ever r
by infotainment 2y ago
Like most things, it would greatly benefit from severe punishments for rulebreaking. Sadly, that won’t happen, since as a society we seem to be afraid of ever reprimanding anyone for anything ever.
- dmd 2y agoAh yes the United States, famous worldwide for its empty prisons and lack of overreacting to minor offenses
- anon291 2y agoI mean the United States is very large and decentralized. Some jurisdictions reprimand. Some do not. Some reprimand people who don't really need it and don't reprimand those who do.
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- bravetraveler 2y agoConsider, for a moment, that these things may be related. We care very little for the young despite a lot of posturing. Raised more by toys and strangers than parents or extended family. I dare say real communities. The consequences I face on the Internet - good or bad - are largely self imposed. Best wishes to anyone navigating this madness alone... yet that's largely what they get. We don't punish consistently or provide healthy upbringings in many facets and have 'unruly' adults to show for it
- infotainment 2y ago> We don't punish consistently or provide healthy upbringings Exactly — studies have repeatedly shown that consistent punishment is what gets results. If you ignore most transgressions and then randomly impose an arbitrary severe punishment you solve nothing except creating a culture of “it’s okay to commit crimes as long as you don’t get caught multiple times in a row.”
- Larrikin 2y agoThere will be severe punishments, it will just depend on the skin color of the student and to a lesser extent the wealth of the parents of the rule breaking student.
- techostritch 2y agoI’ve never really understood punishment.(directed from humans, I’m all for putting kids into challenging situations and letting them learn from the world) Shouldn’t we be teaching kids self restraint and intrinsic motivation? Like I’m not hoping that my kid grows up to be someone that just blindly pursued pleasure / avoids pain, I hope they use they’re frontal cortex. The only think being punished as a kid ever taught me was not to take the person punishing me seriously and strategies for avoiding that person.
- hackinthebochs 2y ago>Shouldn’t we be teaching kids self restraint and intrinsic motivation? We should do what forms them into successful adults and not worry so much about likely unattainable subjective ideals. We do far too much of this top-down imposing of ideologies with little to no data backing up their effectiveness. There is much knowledge encoded in the status quo that shouldn't be discarded lightly. Generations of kids have and continue to suffer under misguided ideology.
- mensetmanusman 2y agoPunishment is a type of feedback to simulate the worse thing happening with low cost but with enough stimulation to learn. Eg a flick of the wrist when a toddler doesn’t listen so that they do listen when it’s a car they are about to run in front of.
- techostritch 2y agoYeah, maybe I would need clarification on what the person I responded to meant by "severe punishments". I have thought about the car thing and wondered if I do the punishment wrong and make them run into the street faster.
- JohnClark1337 2y ago[dead]