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It's Time for Progressives to Recommit to Academic Freedom

29 points by amadeuspagel 2y ago

piombisallow 2y ago
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spacecadet 2y ago
horseshoe theory. no one stopped to think it would impact their future because they lack conviction and choose optics over authenticity. hacker news also embodies this when it comes to anything controversial to this community.
WorkerBee28474 2y ago
> The same justifications we’ve used to restrict conservative speech are being used to silence us on Palestine. We need a different approach. Literally "We made our bed, now we have to lie in it. We need a different bed."
- bsder 2y ago
  Also: "Truth is really inconvenient."
- Clubber 2y ago
  It's amazing how blind some people are to reprisal. If you punch someone in the face, you're going to get something back. It might not be immediately, but it's coming, rest assured. Every action has an equal or opposite reaction, yada, yadda. This phenomenon is so common, it spans multiple clichés. How do people smart enough to get published in The Harvard Law Review underestimate this fundamental human reaction?
  - ChainOfFools 2y ago
    "I may add that I did not enjoy the short time I spent in the company [Wallie] commanded. He could never grasp the neighbourly principles which, by the tacit agreement of the troops, were held to govern trench-warfare, and to which I was introduced at once by my sergeant: I had suggested "pooping" a rifle grenade into a German post where we had seen heads moving. "Just as 'ee like, zir," said the sergeant, scratching his head, "but once 'ee start doing that kind of thing, 'ee'll get zummit back, zee?" -CS Lewis, from Surprised by Joy (1948)
romwell 2y ago
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x-complexity 2y ago
Meta-point: If the people within an ideological camp are willing to drop a principle to favor their own position, the penalty for abandoning aid principle should be heavy enough to make people think critically about the principle itself. Most people nowadays are now treating political positions as if they're fashion statements, despite the wide-reaching effects said principles can have on the structures & systems that surround us.

29 points by amadeuspagel 2y ago

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horseshoe theory. no one stopped to think it would impact their future because they lack conviction and choose optics over authenticity. hacker news also embodies this when it comes to anything controversial to this community.

WorkerBee28474 2y ago

> The same justifications we’ve used to restrict conservative speech are being used to silence us on Palestine. We need a different approach. Literally "We made our bed, now we have to lie in it. We need a different bed."

bsder 2y ago
Also: "Truth is really inconvenient."
Clubber 2y ago
It's amazing how blind some people are to reprisal. If you punch someone in the face, you're going to get something back. It might not be immediately, but it's coming, rest assured. Every action has an equal or opposite reaction, yada, yadda. This phenomenon is so common, it spans multiple clichés. How do people smart enough to get published in The Harvard Law Review underestimate this fundamental human reaction?
- ChainOfFools 2y ago
  "I may add that I did not enjoy the short time I spent in the company [Wallie] commanded. He could never grasp the neighbourly principles which, by the tacit agreement of the troops, were held to govern trench-warfare, and to which I was introduced at once by my sergeant: I had suggested "pooping" a rifle grenade into a German post where we had seen heads moving. "Just as 'ee like, zir," said the sergeant, scratching his head, "but once 'ee start doing that kind of thing, 'ee'll get zummit back, zee?" -CS Lewis, from Surprised by Joy (1948)

romwell 2y ago

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x-complexity 2y ago

Meta-point: If the people within an ideological camp are willing to drop a principle to favor their own position, the penalty for abandoning aid principle should be heavy enough to make people think critically about the principle itself. Most people nowadays are now treating political positions as if they're fashion statements, despite the wide-reaching effects said principles can have on the structures & systems that surround us.