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> They have the potential to be world-beating (especially Numbers) Don't sleep on Numbers. It doesn't get a lot of attention but it can do some nice things in

> They have the potential to be world-beating (especially Numbers) Don't sleep on Numbers. It doesn't get a lot of attention but it can do some nice things in a much less bloated interface than Excel. It's had regular expressions for a while for example, while Excel is just getting them. I love being able to put multiple spreadsheets on a page and arrange them in whatever way you want. Reminds me of Lotus Improv [1] from back in the day. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Improv https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Improv

tambourine_man 2y ago
I like numbers, but AFAIK its file format is not open and Apple just dropped support for older versions some years ago. Imagine not being able to open a spreadsheet from 5 years ago.
gcanyon 2y ago
> put multiple spreadsheets on a page I’ve been hot for this feature since the Improv days — I browbeat the AppleWorks people to support it better, and when a bunch of them split off to build <app I don’t remember the name of> I made sure they knew this was a key feature. Ragtime still supports it as far as I know. https://www.ragtime.de/start.html?lang_id=en https://www.ragtime.de/start.html?lang_id=en
- tveyben 2y ago
  Ragtime is still a thing??? I had the pleasure of working in Ragtime 2.5 and then 3 in 199x on a MacPlus (I had a job translating the manual for Cricket Presents - “PowerPoint” before PowerPoint - from English to danish). It was one of the reasons I ‘got in to computers’(Macs) - it felt like it could ‘do it all’ and was so easy to use (at the time x86 based pc’s did not do the same for me…
  - gcanyon 2y ago
    Remarkably enough it seems so. Unfortunately I've never been in a place where 1. I needed its particular skillset 2. It was the best candidate for the job. I love the idea of having multiple worksheets in a particular document so much, and yet 99.9% of the time I just throw open a google sheet and start throwing in numbers. The collaboration smoothness is a beats-all-else feature.

tambourine_man 2y ago

I like numbers, but AFAIK its file format is not open and Apple just dropped support for older versions some years ago. Imagine not being able to open a spreadsheet from 5 years ago.

gcanyon 2y ago

> put multiple spreadsheets on a page I’ve been hot for this feature since the Improv days — I browbeat the AppleWorks people to support it better, and when a bunch of them split off to build <app I don’t remember the name of> I made sure they knew this was a key feature. Ragtime still supports it as far as I know. https://www.ragtime.de/start.html?lang_id=en https://www.ragtime.de/start.html?lang_id=en

tveyben 2y ago
Ragtime is still a thing??? I had the pleasure of working in Ragtime 2.5 and then 3 in 199x on a MacPlus (I had a job translating the manual for Cricket Presents - “PowerPoint” before PowerPoint - from English to danish). It was one of the reasons I ‘got in to computers’(Macs) - it felt like it could ‘do it all’ and was so easy to use (at the time x86 based pc’s did not do the same for me…
- gcanyon 2y ago
  Remarkably enough it seems so. Unfortunately I've never been in a place where 1. I needed its particular skillset 2. It was the best candidate for the job. I love the idea of having multiple worksheets in a particular document so much, and yet 99.9% of the time I just throw open a google sheet and start throwing in numbers. The collaboration smoothness is a beats-all-else feature.