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Most of them funded by the US. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

localfirst 2y ago
Democratic governments and political parties, unions, student organizations, journalists, artists, teachers, intellectuals, opponents to the military juntas and left-wing sympathizers (including socialists, peronists, anarchists and communists) Crazy they just green lighted the whole segment of the population who were fighting for their own destiny.
Aerbil313 2y ago
Democracy doesn't work in a US-dominant world. My country is nowhere near Africa yet there have been 7 coup attemps, 4 successful, most backed by US in her 100 year history[2]. The last one didn't succeed and the US is currently protecting the leader of the attempt, refusing to give him us back. Arab leaders are likewise domestically widely regarded as sockpuppets of the USA. On the rare occasion a democratic election happens, the president suddenly dies, gets assasinated, or a coup d'état happens and gets hanged. Off the top of my head see [2] for an example. This is not to say democracy would work in a Russia- or China- dominant world. It seems democracy only works for the nations who can sufficiently defend against infiltration by the NSA/foreign intelligence agency of the dominant power. And I don't think that's easy, or feasible at all. You can't expect an African nation of 10M population who gained independence 2 decades ago to have the skilled people to be able to conduct this sort of intelligence operations. And of course, the US is the peacekeeper of the world, only bringing democracy and welfare to the poor nations held back by their authoritarian leaders and backward ideologies and religions. Long live Imperium Americana! 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Egyptian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Egyptian_coup_d%27%C3%A9t...
- localfirst 2y ago
  im noticing lately that comments critical of America is routinely downvoted here. All of what you wrote holds true.
  - lottin 2y ago
    I think blaming the US every time a developing nation screws up is a little bit of a tired trope.
    - tumsfestival 2y ago
      This would be true if there wasn't a huge list of coup attempts in developing countries backed by the U.S. dating back almost a hundred years up until today. It's not a conspiracy, the U.S. has engaged and continues to engage in political interventions world over when they deem it necessary.
    - lenkite 2y ago
      Not a trope when its true and factual. Hell, ex-CIA directors have even admitted it in books and TV! Most Americans don't like hearing that their government can be one of the "bad guys".
  - xtracto 2y ago
    Lately? HN is a forum derived from an American company and promoting Silicon Valley culture. Most of the points of view of everything (not only politics) are strongly skewed towards American culture and beliefs. I would find it surprising if it was different .
    - tptacek 2y ago
      Roughly 10% of HN is in SFBA, 50% in US, and 30% in Europe. SFBA people are a small minority here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40745850 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40745850
      - karlzt 2y ago
- Aerbil313 2y ago
  For those downvoting, it's no secret and has a long history. See United States involvement in regime change: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

localfirst 2y ago

Democratic governments and political parties, unions, student organizations, journalists, artists, teachers, intellectuals, opponents to the military juntas and left-wing sympathizers (including socialists, peronists, anarchists and communists) Crazy they just green lighted the whole segment of the population who were fighting for their own destiny.

Aerbil313 2y ago

Democracy doesn't work in a US-dominant world. My country is nowhere near Africa yet there have been 7 coup attemps, 4 successful, most backed by US in her 100 year history[2]. The last one didn't succeed and the US is currently protecting the leader of the attempt, refusing to give him us back. Arab leaders are likewise domestically widely regarded as sockpuppets of the USA. On the rare occasion a democratic election happens, the president suddenly dies, gets assasinated, or a coup d'état happens and gets hanged. Off the top of my head see [2] for an example. This is not to say democracy would work in a Russia- or China- dominant world. It seems democracy only works for the nations who can sufficiently defend against infiltration by the NSA/foreign intelligence agency of the dominant power. And I don't think that's easy, or feasible at all. You can't expect an African nation of 10M population who gained independence 2 decades ago to have the skilled people to be able to conduct this sort of intelligence operations. And of course, the US is the peacekeeper of the world, only bringing democracy and welfare to the poor nations held back by their authoritarian leaders and backward ideologies and religions. Long live Imperium Americana! 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Egyptian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Egyptian_coup_d%27%C3%A9t...

localfirst 2y ago
im noticing lately that comments critical of America is routinely downvoted here. All of what you wrote holds true.
- lottin 2y ago
  I think blaming the US every time a developing nation screws up is a little bit of a tired trope.
  - tumsfestival 2y ago
    This would be true if there wasn't a huge list of coup attempts in developing countries backed by the U.S. dating back almost a hundred years up until today. It's not a conspiracy, the U.S. has engaged and continues to engage in political interventions world over when they deem it necessary.
  - lenkite 2y ago
    Not a trope when its true and factual. Hell, ex-CIA directors have even admitted it in books and TV! Most Americans don't like hearing that their government can be one of the "bad guys".
- xtracto 2y ago
  Lately? HN is a forum derived from an American company and promoting Silicon Valley culture. Most of the points of view of everything (not only politics) are strongly skewed towards American culture and beliefs. I would find it surprising if it was different .
  - tptacek 2y ago
    Roughly 10% of HN is in SFBA, 50% in US, and 30% in Europe. SFBA people are a small minority here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40745850 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40745850
    - karlzt 2y ago
Aerbil313 2y ago
For those downvoting, it's no secret and has a long history. See United States involvement in regime change: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...