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Can "educated machines" reproduce on their own yet? How do they fit into the food web, the carbon cycle, the nitrogen cycle, etc? Can they make meaning, towards

Can "educated machines" reproduce on their own yet? How do they fit into the food web, the carbon cycle, the nitrogen cycle, etc? Can they make meaning, towards a purpose in life? What role do they serve other than human ingenuity ego-stroking and for a few to further extract money from the many? Can AI love, yet? To what degree are we just avoiding dealing with existential threats by churning through resources to play god and make robots in our image? (Albeit a subset of humanity, and not without bias) I'm not yet convinced this AI work isn't a waste of time and other resources. I'd far rather we put our efforts into land/water stewardship and a "new" vision for human existence based on many of the old ways that got us this far, so that we might go another several hundred thousand years. In an unbroken oral tradition, what stories might those future people tell about this time?

falcor84 2y ago
>Can "educated machines" reproduce on their own yet? How do they fit into the food web, the carbon cycle, the nitrogen cycle, etc? Can they make meaning, towards a purpose in life? What role do they serve other than human ingenuity ego-stroking and for a few to further extract money from the many? Can AI love, yet? I'm sorry to say that to me all these questions sound as semantically meaningful as "can submarines swim?"
daseiner1 2y ago
Though I am admittedly an AI pessimist, as regards your penultimate paragraph, I think AI evangelists would argue that the aforementioned technology may offer a pathway to the new paradigm that you allude to. What consistently goes unremarked upon, however, is the massive political “realignment” (a polite term for revolution) that the proliferation of AI may lead to in the not-so distant future. Disruption and likely violence that may, at best, lead to such a “new vision” for human existence.
fooker 2y ago
I don't know what AI can or can not do, but it's getting good enough that I can't tell if this is written by ChatGPT. If you can't pass the Turing test, setting higher bars for AI doesn't make sense.

falcor84 2y ago

>Can "educated machines" reproduce on their own yet? How do they fit into the food web, the carbon cycle, the nitrogen cycle, etc? Can they make meaning, towards a purpose in life? What role do they serve other than human ingenuity ego-stroking and for a few to further extract money from the many? Can AI love, yet? I'm sorry to say that to me all these questions sound as semantically meaningful as "can submarines swim?"

daseiner1 2y ago

Though I am admittedly an AI pessimist, as regards your penultimate paragraph, I think AI evangelists would argue that the aforementioned technology may offer a pathway to the new paradigm that you allude to. What consistently goes unremarked upon, however, is the massive political “realignment” (a polite term for revolution) that the proliferation of AI may lead to in the not-so distant future. Disruption and likely violence that may, at best, lead to such a “new vision” for human existence.

fooker 2y ago

I don't know what AI can or can not do, but it's getting good enough that I can't tell if this is written by ChatGPT. If you can't pass the Turing test, setting higher bars for AI doesn't make sense.