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Los Angeles Unified School District will ban cellphones from school day in 2025
- anigbrowl 2y agoWhy wait I wonder, just do it from the start of the school year in August/September.
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- m463 2y agoI think this is the best.
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- adamnemecek 2y agoSchool is a distraction from internet use.
- TylerJaacks 2y agowhat do they do if there is like a school shooting?
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- paulryanrogers 2y agoThat this question must be asked speaks to a different and more serious problem.
- makeitdouble 2y agoTo note, these different and more serious problems don't seem to be addressed, but a ban on mobile internet access is a no-brainer for most people apparently.
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- bitlax 2y agoUntil that different and more serious problem is solved what do they do if there is like a school shooting?
- paulryanrogers 2y agoTeachers will still have phones, many buildings have a wired phone in each classroom, and guns are loud so someone near a phone will call for help. You know like how it always worked before every student had a constantly connected pocket distraction.
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y agoWhat do the phones add to a shooting?
- Atotalnoob 2y agoAbility to call 911 or with e911 send texts, images, or videos
- SkyPuncher 2y agoEvery school I’ve been in has phones in every single classroom. Even with the advent of cell phones, I doubt those are going away.
- Atotalnoob 2y agoIf there is an active shooter, you might be hiding
- Auracle 2y agoGuns are loud. It’s not like only a few people will know.
- willcipriano 2y agoThe police are just going to stand around and play with their phones anyway.
- meowster 2y agoI'm sensing some kind of (sad) irony here.
- meowster 2y agoThe ability for a phone to give away a victim's location to the perpetrator as well as encourage parents to get in the way of first responders.
- bdcravens 2y agoThey are banning student phones, not teachers/staff phones.
- high_na_euv 2y agoThats edge case
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- 2C64 2y agoI remember getting special permission to carry a cell phone in school in 2002 because of my mom occasionally needing help at home due to a progressive illness. Only needed to use it once, thankfully, but I wonder if the schools will allow for similar circumstances and how much that's going to be exploited? Given so many people had no problems plopping their kid in front of an iPad/Phone/etc. since birth, I doubt they'd have problems signing a permission slip for cell phone use in school.
- givemeethekeys 2y agoShould an emergency arise, shouldn't the school be able to quickly locate the student and inform them? A call to the teacher in charge, the PA system.. "Jane Smith, please report to the principal's office."?
- rrr_oh_man 2y agoBut that would take perceived agency away from the helicopter Karen in charge. :-)
- SR2Z 2y agoOr... maybe children benefit from the capabilities of phones and it's not the place for schools to fully take them away. In class? Sure, zero tolerance. But between classes and at lunch? What's a rationale that DOESN'T pretend like these kids aren't going to be connected 24/7 _outside_ of school? On top of that, smartphones ARE the only computers that many people use these days. I think HN would agree that kids should have access to computers; I think there's an element of culture shock when folks here are reminded that the smartphone is still the device of the future. That's without even bringing up ChatGPT, which anyone who went to high school can tell you, has been immediately adopted by lazy students and definitely changed the way that essays are written. We live in a world of instantaneous communication and cheap, ubiquitous computaters. It hasn't made education less important, it's made it MORE important and highlighted which skills are uniquely human. We should adapt our schools to reflect that instead of succumbing to "old man yells at cloud" syndrome.
- sidewndr46 2y agoThis is just mind blowing to me because the school district I grew up did this in 1998.
- mouse_ 2y agoI hope this works out. It would be a great benefit if it works out. Social media is a vampire. Realistically though, it seems like a great way to garner animosity of students against their teachers, and teachers against their handlers. Will also teach students how to more effectively and discretely break rules and disrespect power structures.
- infotainment 2y agoLike most things, it would greatly benefit from severe punishments for rulebreaking. Sadly, that won’t happen, since as a society we seem to be afraid of ever reprimanding anyone for anything ever.
- dmd 2y agoAh yes the United States, famous worldwide for its empty prisons and lack of overreacting to minor offenses
- anon291 2y agoI mean the United States is very large and decentralized. Some jurisdictions reprimand. Some do not. Some reprimand people who don't really need it and don't reprimand those who do.
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- bravetraveler 2y agoConsider, for a moment, that these things may be related. We care very little for the young despite a lot of posturing. Raised more by toys and strangers than parents or extended family. I dare say real communities. The consequences I face on the Internet - good or bad - are largely self imposed. Best wishes to anyone navigating this madness alone... yet that's largely what they get. We don't punish consistently or provide healthy upbringings in many facets and have 'unruly' adults to show for it
- makeitdouble 2y agoThis is in the long tradition of banning communication devices for kids: https://www.chicagotribune.com/1988/11/30/beeper-ban-in-schools-urged/ https://www.chicagotribune.com/1988/11/30/beeper-ban-in-scho...
- AndrewKemendo 2y agoI have three kids and wish our school district would do this Why? Societal pressure is multiple times more impactful on teenage behavior than parents for acute dopamine pumps like this - especially when parents aren’t physically with their kids like in school I have seen the social outcast aspect of not being connected to text groups for teenage girls it’s pretty isolating The only way to not be involved in this is to legitimately be a counterculture family or one that has deep and diverse social networks across multi generations that aren’t also addicted to the smart phone system I’m actually unaware of any groups in west - outside of the Amish - who are rejecting smartphone culture; and even then the Amish face challenges with this
- marklubi 2y agoHow did it come to this, where it has to be a top down approach? Some of my son's teachers have a policy of no phones in class. The ones that enforce it have a bag with pockets hanging on the door. If the student has a phone when they walk in to the classroom, it goes in one of the pockets. If they get caught with it on them, it's detention. Simple and effective. Don't understand why this has to be something enforced at the school district level unless the teachers no longer have any authority to run their classrooms
- aniviacat 2y agoBecause this extends to the whole day, including breaks. It isn't just about concentrating on individual classes, it is also about creating a culture that isn't focused on and actively promoting excessive smartphone use. You cannot expect individual children to create cultural change (and thereby socially segregate themselves); such change must be a top down approach to be successful.
- llamaimperative 2y agoCorrect teachers barely have authority because lunatic parents in many schools would throw a temper tantrum at your idea here.
- josephd79 2y agoToo difficult to enforce. Good luck.
- lizardking 2y agoWhen my oldest entered elementary school, I was surprised that children were allowed to use their phones in classrooms. When I graduated in the early 2000s, we weren't allowed to have any devices that would be a distraction, and it's hard to imagine a device more distracting than a tiny pocket computer connected to the rest of the world. I hope this sort of ban becomes commonplace. I encourage all of the parents on HN to forward this news to their childrens' school districts.