> The fundamental unit of democracy is the polity, not the individual. Democracy is neutral as to religion The implication being, each of us must govern our li

> The fundamental unit of democracy is the polity, not the individual. Democracy is neutral as to religion The implication being, each of us must govern our life by whatever "the polity" decides — sounds pretty authoritarian. > mullahs of secular humanism Sounds like a victimhood complex: "We religious people are being persecuted, because we have voting control of the government in [some polity] but we're not being allowed to use that control to force everyone else in that polity to live by our (untestable) metaphysical beliefs — it's not fair!" But more importantly: There are no "mullahs of secular humanism" who insist on telling everyone else how they must live. I'd wager that no secular humanist has ever told a man that he must marry another man, or (modulo the CCP's former one-child policy) a woman that she must abort her pregnancy. On the contrary, it's the (soi-disant) "Christian" versions of mullahs who insist variously that no one can marry anyone of the same sex — or use IVF or birth control — or get divorced for no fault — etc. — on the ground that each of those things is (supposedly) against God's law as they perceive it. They're the ones who insist on forcing a pregnant woman to carry her embryo or fetus to term on the ground that supposedly it's just as "human" in God's eyes as a born baby — according to their religion. So let's not talk about mullahs of secular humanism — the mullahs are on the other side of that debate.