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Right, and personal responsibility has nothing to do with addiction. We should, as a society, normalize impulsiveness and lack of personal responsibility, becau

by Alupis 2y ago

Right, and personal responsibility has nothing to do with addiction. We should, as a society, normalize impulsiveness and lack of personal responsibility, because people are incapable of being responsible. Look, it's not my fault I ate that tray of brownies after dinner. I'm just an addict. I need medicine and government intervention to save me from myself.

therouwboat 2y ago
"It is your fault, just don't do it again. Oh, you did it again, well just don't. You keep doing it, somehow you can't seem to stop, but you should.." Helpful isn't it.
- Alupis 2y ago
  How do you propose we stop them? We used to lock these people away until they were cured...
  - RoyalHenOil 2y ago
    Provide tools, strategies, and alternatives. They still have to use them (it can't be forced), but it's definitely possible to smooth the path. For example, if you have a friend who is trying to quit drinking, invite them to fun alcohol-free events.
    - Alupis 2y ago
      > For example, if you have a friend who is trying to quit drinking, invite them to fun alcohol-free events. Then your friend goes home and drinks alone...
  - kortex 2y ago
    We also used to lock away basically any form of ASD or neurodivergence too far outside the norm (either directly via mental institutions, or indirectly via other harmful programs, mistreatment, or junk science). We also used to consider homosexuality a mental disorder. Moving forward is what society does. Addiction is largely driven by neurodevelopmental disorders (ADHD, ASD, MDD, sleep disorders, and many more), psychological disorders (anxiety, OCD, and many more), or both in combination. Most folks don't want to be addicts. At the heart of addiction is executive dysfunction caused by the above conditions, exacerbated by stressors. You treat it like any other mental health problem: therapy, medication, support systems, and a society that cares for its populace.
diffxx 2y ago
It's not an either/or.
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by Alupis 2y ago

therouwboat 2y ago

"It is your fault, just don't do it again. Oh, you did it again, well just don't. You keep doing it, somehow you can't seem to stop, but you should.." Helpful isn't it.

Alupis 2y ago
How do you propose we stop them? We used to lock these people away until they were cured...
- RoyalHenOil 2y ago
  Provide tools, strategies, and alternatives. They still have to use them (it can't be forced), but it's definitely possible to smooth the path. For example, if you have a friend who is trying to quit drinking, invite them to fun alcohol-free events.
  - Alupis 2y ago
    > For example, if you have a friend who is trying to quit drinking, invite them to fun alcohol-free events. Then your friend goes home and drinks alone...
- kortex 2y ago
  We also used to lock away basically any form of ASD or neurodivergence too far outside the norm (either directly via mental institutions, or indirectly via other harmful programs, mistreatment, or junk science). We also used to consider homosexuality a mental disorder. Moving forward is what society does. Addiction is largely driven by neurodevelopmental disorders (ADHD, ASD, MDD, sleep disorders, and many more), psychological disorders (anxiety, OCD, and many more), or both in combination. Most folks don't want to be addicts. At the heart of addiction is executive dysfunction caused by the above conditions, exacerbated by stressors. You treat it like any other mental health problem: therapy, medication, support systems, and a society that cares for its populace.

diffxx 2y ago

It's not an either/or.

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