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Figma AI
- elawler24 2y agoLate to this conversation, but I'm a designer and very excited about these new AI features. They address tedious work that most designers don't want to deal with. It reminds me of why Figma won love from the design community in the first place - because they innovate on systems using emerging technology. They have always made designers more effective and relevant, rather than maintaining status quo simply because enterprise paying customers are stuck in their ways.
- jacobp100 2y agoIt looks like a solid set of updates. A lot of designers seem worried, but I’m not sure they need to be. It was always the case you could get prebuilt templates and the like, but companies still prefer to have professional designers. I imagine it’ll make prototyping much faster
- karaterobot 2y agoWatching the keynote, the feature where it spits out a design based on a prompt seems like a gimmick. If it doesn't work with MY design system (as opposed to curated design systems like MUI or Bootstrap or whatever) then it's useless. It's also probably not ready to design complex applications, as opposed to brochure websites and apps that fit into very common templates. The AI-powered search features seem really promising, as finding the right design file is a problem I face every day. What they showed was the ability to paste a screenshot (e.g. from production) and have it find where that design came from, or use a text search to do the same. That's something that'll make me squeal with joy if it actually works. Filling in mock data in designs is also a big potential quality of life improvement. The domain I work in is so specific that I'm not sure it'll be of practical use to me, but I'm hopeful. All in all, I'm glad about the parts where they are trying to target some specific pain points with AI, skeptical about the rest.
- jjcm 2y agoPM here for Make Designs. > If it doesn't work with MY design system (as opposed to curated design systems like MUI or Bootstrap or whatever) then it's useless You hit the nail on the head. This our #1 focus for this team moving forward. If you noticed in the keynote, Dylan highlighted Chen Chen and the Google Material team, both of whom created generators for their design systems. They work, but they were hard to make as the tooling to create these isn't polished or ready yet. It's something we're actively thinking about and improving in order to make this useful for those with existing design systems.
- tsunamifury 2y agoThe problem here isn’t that it uses your pattern library or not. The issue is it will spit out static designs that look right but aren’t actually based on either user goals or business goals of the product. It’s just a design that looks right. It’s missing the entire workflow design part and in fact covers over the need for it. I see it leading a lot of less experienced product programs astray.
- gffrd 2y agoSo … how most companies are already designing experiences?
- tsunamifury 2y agoTouché
- LauraMedia 2y agoI think what would also be important is to select an existing frame and create additional views that fit the existing frame, that would definitely help creating a proper workflow
- choppaface 2y agoAre you really shooting to generate something full-fidelity? Or rather provide lower fidelity but empower the user to spitball and maybe test light interaction? And if it is full fidelity, how do you ensure users actually own the copyright at the end of the day?
- jerrygenser 2y agov0 by Vercel only outputs one UI library, shadcn/ui. Useful if you are wanting to use that library for example starting a project from scratch. Potentially vercel will add more. https://v0.dev/ https://v0.dev/
- leerob 2y agoYou can also output HTML / Tailwind, but the ambition is to support custom React component libraries & design systems.
- kristopolous 2y agomost projects are pretty generic. I've been on countless where they just want something that looks like everything else. If this can deliver that and I can do it without having to contract out a designer, it's a win.
- hbosch 2y agoThe race is on. What will AI deliver first...? Production-ready code so PMs don't need engineers, or production-ready designs so PMs don't need designers? The reality is that without domain experts (design, research, engineering, business, law) you're left trusting the AI to make the decision without a good way to check if it made the right one.
- alfalfasprout 2y agoOh you'll find out alright... when it's too late. I'm just waiting for a year or two from now when companies realize what a colossal hole they dug themselves in using a bunch of AI generated crap in production. We're already seeing it with marketing copy.
- kristopolous 2y agoDesign is different. It's become literally just whatever the boss likes. You can tell me about the math, theories and laws but look around you, nobody cares about those any more.
- Hoasi 2y ago> You can tell me about the math, theories and laws but look around you, nobody cares about those any more. It's true. Just a few years back, design thinking was all the rage. Nowadays, even apps from flagship companies feel all over the place. Attention to detail, unobtrusive interface, intelligent symbols, subdued color palettes, rich illustrations, all that is out the window now. Why should we need good design when we can replace it with cheaper "AI" templates?
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- hn_throwaway_99 2y ago> The AI-powered search features seem really promising, as finding the right design file is a problem I face every day. What they showed was the ability to paste a screenshot (e.g. from production) and have it find where that design came from, or use a text search to do the same. That's something that'll make me squeal with joy if it actually works. I've found that, generally, "better search" is the biggest productivity bump I get from gen AI at the moment. That is, lots of times I don't know the keyword of what I want to find beforehand, and with things like ChatGPT I can just describe it to find out. E.g. recently I needed to update all the values in a Postgres array column of one value to another, so I just described to ChatGPT what I wanted to do. It would have taken me a lot longer to hunt through the docs to find the `array_replace` function and get usage examples. Plus, in the "better search" use case I'm much less concerned about hallucinations as I'm really only using ChatGPT to get me started in the right direction in the first place.
- adriand 2y agoIt’s true. My best example of this recently was describing what I needed to finish a cabling project and discovering that it’s called a “grommet”. I had already spent a bunch of time on the Home Depot website searching for the wrong things (faceplate, outlet cover, etc) without success. Armed with the correct term, I found the product in seconds.
- bagels 2y agoI'm not a designer and I don't have a design system, but if this lets me build wireframes that I can hand off, that would save me a ton of time.
- iknowSFR 2y agoEvery AI tool being released by 3rd parties is being blacklisted by my company. The primary reasoning is around sharing data with tool itself. On the other hand, if my clients allow them, there’s a long review and approval process followed by continuous audits. Is anyone else running into this at their companies? I look at these tools and get excited but I’m continuously being blocked from using for work.
- digging 2y agoMy organization is kind of just not talking about AI tools and the obvious risks. We've gotten neither a ban nor an all-clear, leaving us to use it according to our own judgment and not talk about it very much. I think more companies are in this boat, and while I understand your frustration, your company is making the wiser move (although it may bite them; some of the more reckless companies will die for their carelessness but others will survive and pull ahead faster).
- YetAnotherNick 2y agoI saw this in a few of my friends' companies. I have asked to everyone how is storing data in Azure is better than using Azure ChatGPT API, and till now I haven't been able to get a good answer.
- mrbungie 2y agoThis. If you don't trust your provider when it says it won't use data you embed in your LLM API Calls, why do you trust them when you use any of their other services?
- shermantanktop 2y agoBecause those other services are built with clear expectations of tenant isolation, and cross-tenant data leakage would be a near-fatal event. But the models behind these AI tools have a single-tenant core, with tenant isolation added on as a heroic effort to fake what the technology does not support by default.
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- itronitron 2y agoAll that page demonstrates is that Figma facilitates a lot of design features that have no utility for the user.
- ProfessorLayton 2y agoNot everything listed here, but things like layer naming assists, translation, and mockup auto-fill definitely help designers focus on what's important to the user. More time spent on user issues rather than monotonous work sounds like a win win.
- klabb3 2y agoIs it just me or did gen AI allow companies to cheat a lot more with their demos/showcases? I feel like there’s absolutely no way to tell if what’s shown is representative, cherry-picked or outright faked. I mean, it’s non-reproducible by nature, so it even gives plausible deniability to unscrupulous marketing departments. I’d rather watch a YouTuber or streamer do a real project in a tool too see if and how it works in practice.
- devmor 2y agoI don't think it's that big of a change. I've sat on both sides of many meetings where designers showcased mockups of functionality that didn't exist and wasn't even sanity-checked for a possibility to be engineered in the first place.
- jjcm 2y agoPM here on the AI streams. These were all live demoes, not faked. Was not great for my anxiety given the non-deterministic nature. We did talk about faking it, but Dylan was heavily opposed as he felt it wouldn't be genuine.
- dharma1 2y agodo you know when they're rolling out? I saw something about waitlist mentioned, but no link. Thanks!
- karaterobot 2y agoIf you watched the keynote, it was pretty clearly not cherry-picked or faked. It didn't come up with perfect images or text every time. It felt very much like what happens when you enter a prompt into a chat-based AI. As additional proof that it was not faked, the CEO was clearly distracted by the notifications from hundreds of people requesting access to the live file he was demoing from, which was a pretty good live demo moment.
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- dang 2y agoFigma is not a YC company.
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- Matticus_Rex 2y agoFigma is often frontpage because it's one of the most-used tools on the market for tech companies, and it's therefore relevant to a lot of the people here.
- purple-leafy 2y agoYeah Figma sucks.
- solardev 2y agoWhy don't you just scroll past it? On any given day, 90% of the stuff on the front page isn't interesting to me, but it's easy to just ignore them. Or use Adblock to filter them out with a custom rule. Figma is a tool used (and loved) by many of us in the web or frontend world, both because of its utility and because it's the "Google Docs" of today, meaning software that uses cutting-edge web technologies to deliver a good app experience that previously required desktop installs (Sketch, Photoshop, etc.) Plus, they narrowly avoided being bought out by Adobe (thank god), which would've saddened a lot of us. Figma was very much loved; Adobe was usually not. All in all it's just an important tool and interesting company to keep tabs on.
- ChipperShredder 2y agoIt's an everyday affair, every single day there are several promoted Figma stories on the front page. It's not really that revolutionairy either, other than the model of putting it behind the cloud instead of letting people own the product on their computer.
- josefrichter 2y agoNaming layers has been a problem for decades. There are even memes about it. With the advent of AI, we all knew this is a perfect match where AI can help from day one. Happy to see it arrive to Figma now.
- photon_collider 2y agoCSS has had a similar issue with naming classes, which is one reason for how TailwindCSS’s design. I wonder if we’ll see more AI tools for these kinds of use cases.
- coffeebeqn 2y agoAre we about to solve the two hard problems in CS?
- thomasfromcdnjs 2y agoYeah this one is crazy cool, not even a designer, but my figma prototypes are trash to manager after a while, any approximate name is better than my Layer 1231
- josefrichter 2y agoExactly. TBH, I don't understand why there wasn't some auto-naming logic even before AI. Names like "avatar wrapper" or "left column" are not difficult to infer from the layout in many cases. Plus it doesn't need to be anywhere near 100% precise – as you hinted, naming something "layer 1231" is utterly useless anyway.
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- raincole 2y agoI honestly just want a good AI vector icon generator. An i2i one, not just text prompting one.
- logicchains 2y agoWhat's Figma? They don't make it very clear.
- solardev 2y agoA popular UI design tool that UX/UI designers often use to mock up screens to hand to frontend developers who then implement it.
- thecolorblew 2y agoIt's the defacto digital design tool in the industry, so they've kind of earned the right to not preface with that information
- DidYaWipe 2y agoPfff, no.
- purple-leafy 2y agoNo you’re wrong, must be thinking of Ligma
- b3ing 2y agoA company Adobe tried to buy $20 billion, because they killed off Fireworks (since they didn't understand its purpose - which gave rise to Sketch) and tried to copy Sketch with XD but failed even when they made it for free (and you know that was only temporary as they hoped it would become more popular).
- hamasho 2y agoWhat happened to MS Office and copilot integration? They gave impressive demos[1] showing users create high-quality PowerPoint with good design and content just by prompting a few sentences more than one year ago. I don't have Copilot license so I don't use it by myself. If someone uses it daily, how good is it? [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7xTBa93TX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7xTBa93TX8
- danfromplus 2y agoit's quite bad. just makes every slide the same - 1 image + 3 bullet points and tries to obfuscate by putting it into a few different layouts
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- troupo 2y agoIt's quite telling that they are showcasing a quite badly working AI feature that no one really asked for. And yet pricing controls that people actually want? Oh 6 to 12 months maybe
- toddmorey 2y agoThey have not yet started doing any training on user content and I applaud them for that. (They've only used public community files so far.) However, they are headed that way to support advanced AI features. Quoting Fimga: Two important highlights: First, all admins have control of whether their team’s content data is used for training. Second, participation in AI content training is not required to use Figma or Figma’s AI features. Learn more about our approach to training. PLEASE, PLEASE make that opt-in versus opt-out. Do the right thing here, Figma!
- flappyeagle 2y agoIt’s opt out for lower plans and opt in for higher plans
- b3ing 2y agoYou know it will be turned on by default, that is 99% what companies do. The data-for-training is too important to get no matter what
- guluarte 2y agoinstead of AI companies should call next generation scalffoulding
- DidYaWipe 2y agoAny time I see "AI" bullshit now, I'm going to post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvDCk3pY4qo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvDCk3pY4qo
- meelford 2y agoDespite the ethical concerns, it would be very useful if Figma offered an option for large organisations to train an organisation-level model that does not share data with the rest of the world. I believe the opt-in rate would be much higher.